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Summer 2015 was the hottest on record in the northern hemisphere


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  • Location: manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Summer
  • Location: manchester

This is according to Nasa, unfortunately the UK was left shaded in the cooler areas.

2016 will continue to see the 'record breaking' theme due to the continuing El Nino event

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/34284208

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

This is according to Nasa, unfortunately the UK was left shaded in the cooler areas.

2016 will continue to see the 'record breaking' theme due to the continuing El Nino event

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/34284208

 

There is a thread for global surface air temperatures that might interest you https://forum.netweather.tv/topic/77068-global-surface-air-temperature-current-conditions-and-future-prospects/page-25

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  • Location: Exile from Argyll
  • Location: Exile from Argyll

Ho-hum....it would have been toasty on a cruise ship in the Pacific...unfortunately, we're moored on a barge in the N. Atlantic. Were the land temps just as record breakingly warm?

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

I hate this "from when records began" or "hottest on record" it may have been.. But how old is the Earth? And how old are our records.. 

 

The context matters here, what is changing, what can we measure and can we explain it? 150 years is more than enough time to measure significant changes in the Earths climate. 

 

 

Ho-hum....it would have been toasty on a cruise ship in the Pacific...unfortunately, we're moored on a barge in the N. Atlantic. Were the land temps just as record breakingly warm?

 

From my post in the thread linked to above

 

 

The SOTC report has August 2015 as the warmest on recording, beating the previous record set last year by 0.09C. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201508

 

  • Land surface temperature was the warmest for any August on record
  • Oceans were the warmest for any month on record, beating the high set last month.
  • The summer was the warmest on record, beating the record set last year by +0.11C
  • Year to date is the warmest on record, 0.10C above the previous record set in 2010

 

How 2015 looks so far...

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  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine and 15-25c
  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)

I hate this "from when records began" or "hottest on record" it may have been.. But how old is the Earth? And how old are our records.. 

im sure many posters on here would be hanging out the banners and dining out on it for years if we had the coldest winter on record..or would it really just be irrelevant or not matter not really?

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  • Location: Evesham/ Tewkesbury
  • Weather Preferences: Enjoy the weather, you can't take it with you 😎
  • Location: Evesham/ Tewkesbury

I hate this "from when records began" or "hottest on record" it may have been.. But how old is the Earth? And how old are our records.. 

Indeed. More recording stations, and some spin is more like it regarding that statement. :nonono:

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft

I hate this "from when records began" or "hottest on record" it may have been.. But how old is the Earth? And how old are our records.. 

 

Its over used particularly when we have limited data such as the at the Poles 

 

I would prefer 'since accurate records began e.g 1985 etc'

 

Some folk will take proxy data going back 1000s of years or treat as 'accurate' global temps from 1880s

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft

im sure many posters on here would be hanging out the banners and dining out on it for years if we had the coldest winter on record..or would it really just be irrelevant or not matter not really?

 

But the 'coldest winter' on record would be measured ie by CET or since 1914 since the 'recording station opened' etc

 

To put a label on global temps is meaningless we don't have accurate historic data going back far.

 

I could say i has the coldest September so far here 'on record but if my station was open in 2012 wouldn't mean much.

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

Its over used particularly when we have limited data such as the at the Poles 

 

I would prefer 'since accurate records began e.g 1985 etc'

 

Some folk will take proxy data going back 1000s of years or treat as 'accurate' global temps from 1880s

 

Do you not think it odd how what you would prefer or what you consider accurate and proper so often differs and what the thousands of experts in various different countries that work on global temperature records think?

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft

Do you not think it odd how what you would prefer or what you consider accurate and proper so often differs and what the thousands of experts in various different countries that work on global temperature records think?

 

No expert suggests we could consider global temps were accurate within 0.01c in 1880 , maybe 0.5c using limited proxy data and some dodgy weather stations. 

 

No body suggests we knew all about Pluto in 1932 yet we seem to have this consent 'referencing' going back thousands of years considered by some to be very accurate.

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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

No expert suggests we could consider global temps were accurate within 0.01c in 1880 , maybe 0.5c using limited proxy data and some dodgy weather stations. 

 

No body suggests we knew all about Pluto in 1932 yet we seem to have this consent 'referencing' going back thousands of years considered by some to be very accurate.

 

Does the temperature data need to be accurate to within 0.01C to be useful? Why do agencies like NASA use data going back to 1880 if they don't think the data is accurate enough?

 

Many different independent groups have constructed their own global temperature time series and yet they all end up looking pretty much the same. Does that not give at least a little confidence in the likelihood of them being accuracy?

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