IanM

I've not said there is a problem with the thread discussing his forecast Adrian, but we do already have a thread dealing with winter forecasts, Exacta's among them including his most recent update as Summer Blizzard has pointed out. I just don't like to see them wandering off from discussing the forecast to discussing the forecasters personality, as you have pointed out quite stridently in the past, there is no excuse for it and it only serves to antagonise the individuals involved and their followers. As for hiding commercial interests, I don't know that he has, and haven't tried to dig deeper either as he doesn't cross our path professionally at all. Like I say, at least we know who he is, and what his forecast is, the same can't be said for all winter forecasts from commercial outfits. I'm working on it John, I agree one easy reference point for all the forecasts we have access to would make life a lot easier.

Funnily enough the plan was to have winter discussion in one thread and just the forecasts in this one, but it never quite plays out as planned. I'll have a play over the weekend.

If we must have these threads, can we limit the discussion to the forecast, it's merits and issues and not stray into becoming insulting or personal please. I think is will become the standard disclaimer every third post in these threads. One thing for James, he doesn't charge for the full forecast, and it's out there for all to see, regardless of outcome and he deserves credit for that at the very least.

Sorry Shuggee, should have updated this, we swapped emails earlier this week. It looks like an Invision bug (again), we're waiting on some feedback.

I hate to intrude, but could we take the discussion of winters past to a more suitable thread please? Thanks

Please stick to the models, that was a chunk of time spent editing and deleting on the back of just one comment triggering a landslide of largely irrelevant posts for this thread. There is some interesting info, otherwise we would have just deleted the last two pages entirely. Please keep it model related, thanks

Just an FYI at this stage, but AA have filed for Chapter 11 - which is protection from creditors - while they attempt to shed costs. http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/11/29/american-airlines-parent-files-for-bankruptcy/ It needs watching, but no real information yet. Ian

It depends on what the data is really. We won't be mirroring the MetO forecasts for instance, but until the MetO themselves are sure of what is happening we can't say what data would be useful to us.

If the models were to verify (unlikely at this stage) then consistent wind speeds of around 80-100mph could be expected. If you want to know how to interpret charts have a browse here http://forum.netweather.tv/forum/5-the-netweather-guides/ some good info and knowledge to get you up to speed.

Take a deep breath and stick to the models please. If something upsets, offends or just takes a stroll off topic please report it and keep the posts in here on topic. we do read the thread and also respond to reports, so lets keep on track please. There's plenty to discuss in the model run tonight without getting distracted. Thanks Ian

Sorry, it didn't flag as failed. the UKMO charts should update in the next 15-30 mins.

Final warning, discuss this forecast, which will be hard to do as his original comments only covered a period from today, but do not get overly emotional or start mud slinging. If you want to compare actuals to past forecasts that is fine, but do it in a polite, non aggressive manner please. The primary difference is in how we reacted to the forecast being wrong, for the summer we admitted it immediately and explained exactly how and why the forecast was arrived at and what went wrong. In fact last Jan and feb are a great example, PC was still pushing for extreme cold through the whole period I believe, right to the end? Our original forecast can still be found here - http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=other;type=winter-forecast;sess= Ian

It does seem a little OTT, but ultimately great publicity for him. Without the previous 13 pages his visitor count would have been lower, and his forecast wouldn't be getting as much of an airing as it has been. By all means discuss the forecast, but don't stray into insults, personal or otherwise please. You can also make comments directly on his site, so maybe that would be a better place to ask your polite, well constructed questions? We can't answer for him, or explain his forecasts as no other person outside of weatheraction knows how they are arrived at.

Can we please keep on the Models, past winters are interesting, but don't need to be analysed here, thanks

I'm sure you've all been waiting for this bit of light reading for the weekend, but just in case, here is the latest IPCC output, the summary document for policy makers : http://www.ipcc-wg2.gov/SREX/images/uploads/SREX-SPM_Approved-HiRes_opt.pdf The full document is scheduled for release in February Ian

The video is produced by http://green.tv/ . They asked our opinion and offered the chance to be amongst the first to show it, I think they have done a great job and look forward to seeing the new videos as they roll out.

I'll be showing my little round face this year, and demonstrating my in depth knowledge of weather systems. Or more likely passing the questions to those who know what they are doing and making the rounds saying hi to everyone.

HI Richard We're date juggling at the moment, having moved the final tour 'up north'. We need to make sure we have the right resources allocated to each tour, and we base that on number of bookings and enquiries received before releasing a date for confirmed seats. Ian

A shining example of how easily the mod thread is derailed, we will tidy up, but its going to take some time. Reporting is the only action that needs to be taken, endless commentary on a single post doesn't help and brings even more attention to it. Report, ignore, leave the moderating team to do their work please. And a reminder, there is never any need for personal attacks, digs, sniping or any form of playground style point scoring. The Model forum rules are pretty clear, please make sure you stick to them. Thank you

It's still a winter forecast thread, and mild weather can be forecast in the winter. Summer 2009 on the other hand isn't winter 2011/12...

Hi Lewis, the Arizona bookings tend to lag behind the tornado tours. We'll start pushing them harder soon, so you'll have plenty of company

That'd be a Fish, not a Giles, Quentin. Paul S has the picture framed by his bedside...

Thanks for the comments, it seems something did happen, but noone saw it...http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/9345132.Tornado_damages_county_property/?ref=twtrec Was Uri Geller visiting the area?

lol, The Timmer effect, it gets me every time... I know it wasn't a prank call, because we speak with the BBC quite a lot, so tend to know the secret handshake and everything

Thanks Nick - apparently a conservatory a tree or two and a stable roof have relocated themselves. It does sound like a gust rather than a tornado is more likely, but like you say, definite possibility of tornado somewhere today.