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3 minutes ago, johnholmes said:
Gawd what is the matter with some of you. Some lucky folk have had/are having snow. Many areas are not, so what.
Give it a rest and report the weather.
The problems is when you try and report the weather - a genuine widespread snow event for the Midlands and parts of the North West, you get southerners who haven't had the courtesy to read the weather threads for the affected regions chiming in to have a go at you.....
A note for all, if you're going to act as some authority on a weather event, read the local affected threads first to see which areas have been covered by it.
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1 minute ago, Tim Bland said:
Birmingham just over 1 million. UK = 67 million
And? The population of the sub central region of London is 1.5m and you can guarantee if everywhere else but them in London got rain and they got 5cm of snow it would still be news.....
The population of the west Midlands is 3m anyway, which is a fairer comparison to greater London. You can deny the bias all you want, but it exists, and it's rather insulting for a southerner to claim it doesn't. Applies to other news not just snow...
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Just now, Tim Bland said:
It’s about population density. National news know their audience and will play news that effects the majority of their audience. It’s also relative. 5cm of snow in central London is big news as it’s very rare. 5cm of snow in Aberdeen would not even get a mention on the news. It’s a bit like 0c in parts of Norway would be referred to as ‘mild’ in January where as in the Uk it oils be called ‘bitterly cold’ it’s all relative! My point above before this went off on a Tangent was to Kasim about doing his snow warnings and generalizing to a national forum about an ‘event’ when to 90% of the population there was no event.
Yeah see the above about Birmingham and shut uo about pop density.
5cm here is a rarity, so that doesn't work on that score either.
It's about everyone in the national press living in Surrey Heath....
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1 minute ago, Tim Bland said:
Blimey, if some of Peak District is bare it really is a localized event. @Deep Snow please it’s not about London or even the south east. As per above it’s about 90% of the population who don’t live in this area - and even some in this area eg Buxton..
The point is if it was localised to a tiny part of the south east it would be national news. I'll probably remember it in 20 years time.
And as shown above, Birmingham is getting pasted. If London got a fraction of that snow it would be national news. North of the Watford gap however and the press don't care.
The southern bias in snow reporting exists, and I've every right to call it out.
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2 minutes ago, Tim Bland said:
It’s not an ‘event’ for the Uk it’s an event for knutsford, a small pet of Cheshire and congleton which is probably 2% of the population This is a national forum, hence my comment about remembering your audience....95% of whom are looking out the window this morning wondering what all the fuss was about
Except as pointed out above this event delivered to Blackburn, Burnley, Preston and even slight further inland than that through the streamer yesterday.
The same amount of snow as we got yesterday would be national news in Kent or Essex. When I'm on my PC rather than phone I'll grab the radar pic from yesterday.
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3 minutes ago, Tim Bland said:
My bad. I always thought Lancashire was north & North west of Manchester...please enlighten me on.how much of lancashire is under this precip What’s your post code I’ll send reed Timmer and the news crew
We got 5cm from the streamer that set up just in front of this yesterday afternoon and evening. Generally a snow event encompasses both the streamers and the main low (which went a little bit to the south of us overnight) It's within the same 24 hour period and all part of the same cold air wave.
Obviously this not being London, 5cm of snow is not national news for us....
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Southerner thread has now decided most of us live in the Midlands, just popping back here for some sanity.
On the brightside this and actual snow event for the 2020/21 winter so I can probably wipe my sig.
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Just now, Tim Bland said:
To be fair though mate - 90% of the population have seen nothing so it’s not really an event. It’s raining in the south west and south coast and dry for the remaining 70%. I love your enthusiasm but you need to remember your audience, most people don’t live in the Pennines or north york. moors. In densely populated areas it’s only really a small part of the midlands seeing anything . Love the enthusiasm though mate and good to have you back on the forum
If it wasn’t for lockdown I’d probably be in Buxton or Edale now
Nice to know the Midlands now encompasses all the way up to Lancashire. Geography syllabuses must be rewritten!!!!
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4 minutes ago, Kasim Awan said:
Lol, largely the event has produced what was expected. No one was expecting snowmaggedon, 2-3cm fairly widely 5-10cm+ very locally from the initial band W mids Wales. Marginal in the south later todau.
Goes back to the comments I made yeste day. Your location matters, an event like this always has less chance of being a bust up here, in this new WFH world why not dial in from up here in the snowy North rather than the South? If you not willing to move somewhere naturally colder, why do you have the right to koan when a marginal event stays sleety/rainy?
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And here comes the sun to start the thawing job on yesterday's haul. Thankfully enough of it that it'll have it's work cut out.
Looks like the NW Forecast thinks we might have another bit of a shot overnight tonight as well!!! Remarkable.
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Good 5cm from sitting under a streamer yesterday afternoon.
Pretty much nothing from the low itself but that's life.
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11 minutes ago, CreweCold said:
Ben, I thought I was going to see nothing a bit back so to even get a dusting I'm grateful.
Of course I'd love 4cm of fresh snow but I can't grumble now really.
We're weather watchers and coldies - we can always grumble. (low so close but not close enough overnight is mine)
Saw the first snowfall of this winter and a good 5cm or so lying of it as well so nothing to complain about really. Overnight was always going to require a tonne of look.
Felt quite cold overnight, and looking at the models it seems we'll hopefully have a few more events to look forward to in January.
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January, February, March - Absolutely freezing, snow most of the month, daytime maxes well below freezing.
April, May - prolonged unseanable heatwave with day time maxes well above 35C
June, July - mild and wet, regularly storms, high winds, flooding,
August, September - return to heatwave conditions on par with April and May.
October - wet and rainy. Very stormy.
November, December - day time maxes below freezing, heavy blizzards continously.
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What time is that stuff over IoM likely to get to Lancashire.
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2 minutes ago, Barmada_Casten said:
And surprise surprise the forecasted snowfall for my location in the early hours had gone. Only for the 1000th time. Guys just stay away from me if your way in snow - I went to the Baltic’s last January find true winter weather - they had the mildest snowless winter on record. I was in a 10 mile circular radius I’m north Devon that received no snow in the once in a life time 2019 event. Does not help the depression believe me but I am that used to knock back after knock back i am used to it. I want to visit the North Pole but it would melt as soon as my feet touched the ground.
Well, it wouldn't be a proper snow event without a whine from Barmada Casten would it....
You still in the lakes? Drive up a hill.
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Just now, Chertseystreamer79 said:
Did you never jump on a rollercoaster as a child!
Fair enough opinion of course and it's actually very correct but its not what this gaff is all about!
Not worried about what tomorrow brings when you could bang your head against a wall on the 18z's!
Anyway back to these models and for me that ecm easterly is gaining enough support now to think it might now need to be looked at a bit more closely!
Has anyone ever done a comprehensive study on model accuracy. That would be interesting!
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Oh and added to the above fun game time. 2 inches of snow and widespread travel disruption up here in North West, currently no front page story.
If the forecast snow in Surrey, London and Essex happens later. 1st or 2nd news item?
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5 minutes ago, Joe Snow said:
Well if it was a band of rain I’m sure it would have hit us snow starved North West folk! We’ll see I suppose might get dribs and drabs of the main band in the early hours just a dusting would be nice to wake up to. January is looking interesting but more runs needed and definitely not to the extent of the ‘Thames is going to freeze over’ brigade in the mad thread lol!
There seems to be a bit of banding together going on towards the top between Scotland and NI - even if the main band catches whales that could catch us. Apparently it's rain in parts of Ireland anyway.
The sea will freeze over was far more up my street to be honest. Eagerly awaiting my three feet of snow following the SSW nowmThat said a quick glance at my CET predictions and you'll know I like a good ramp.
Always nice to see any show though.
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2 minutes ago, Joe Snow said:
Looks like it although south of the region hopefully getting in on the action too.
Suppose it's only fair seen as we had most of the action this afternoon.
Who am I kidding!!! I wanted more snow, til my house is buried.
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1 minute ago, Joe Snow said:
Northern Ireland including Belfast now reporting heavy accumulating snow from the frontal band - a good sign for sure... fingers crossed some of it makes it to us!
Looks more likely to give Wales a pasting, no?
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Gone a bit quiet now here - maybe time for those for south to have some fun.
Looks to be something promising developing off the coast of Rhyl.
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1 minute ago, hillbilly said:
No!
Ok I'm interested in knowing what the separating criteria are from a meteorological perspective.
Those winters where characterised by Easterlies no?
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All snow here now and moderately heavy.
Winter wonderland outside.
Winter 2020/21 - Moans, Ramps & Chat
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Posted · Edited by Deep Snow please
Closer to 8-9m once you include the rest of Lancashire that was under yesterday's streamer and parts of Manchester that did see snow, creeps towards London's population. But is it national news, course it's not. It's not a political debate about levelling up I'm after, simply stating the fact that if the media can't report snow events without a regional bias we're screwed....