Deep Snow please

I found it odd someone picked up on the Thames freezing over comment rather than sea freezing over one.

To be fair the roads don't seem to have been gritted properly round here, so if same there recipe for disaster. How many people bother with winter tyres after all?

Their rear ends.

Do we reckon it could end up 5-10cm at lower levels by tomorrow morning, or is it going to die off before that.

It wouldn't be a positive at all regards Covid, I love a cold winter as much as anyone but a prolonged period of cold weather and the strain on emergency services and council budgets that would bring could well be the straw that broke the camels back for a lot of services and councils. 2010, the closest analogue to what the optimists are pinging, caused severe pressure on hospitals and councils. Ok - seen as this has been moved, I was avoiding going into detail - every time there's a cold snap there's news stories about NHS crisis - not to mention how difficult it is for vulnerable folk who need home care to access it in severe winters. Yes, we all want a bit of snow, but to pretend this is good for Covid is a nonsense - a potential NHS crisis, on top of an existing one and councils who already face bankruptcy from overspending to ease Covid issues, now faced with mounting costs of snow clearance and gritting. It would be a disaster.

Wasn't one of the 2009/2010 winters a Beast from the East?

In Blackburn. Yes covering of what could actually be termed snow now. Was a bit graupelly/slush to start but sorted itself it out. Impressive given how wet it was.

We've reliably had a few snow events each winter here since I moved a few years ago. That's all you need.

Mod thread going doollaly over a Beast from East, hardly much use to us. Tell me when we've a straight northerly or north, north westerly.

Since I've lived here at least, a few snow events a winter. It gets westerly streamers from the Irish Sea. I actually live here unlike you and have had at least 2-3 snow events every winter for the past few years, and talking to others round here relatively similar most years. Before that I lived in the North East and got snow regularly there too. Don't think I've gone a winter in the last decade without at least one snow event, how many of you south of the midlands can say that? Also means you can do something outside the rest of winter, rather than up in the darkest reaches of the lakes or moors where you can't go outside for months on end.

I mean, there's reasons to be optimistic but how many times have we been here before? Thinking were on the verge only to get nothing.

Well you were responded to my post discussing today's snowfall round here, so not unreasonable to assume you were talking about that. The best snow events tend to be well forecast ones when the cold has already been locked in and you've no need to worry about the margins. As I said, if you want regular snowfall and to stop banging your head against brick walls wishing upon a star, move up north to somewhere reasonably above sea level. We haven't had a winter for quite a few years that hasn't had at least a couple of decent snowfalls. If you live in the south and moan you don't get much snow, move if you want it or stop moaning.

This wasn't out of nowhere, has been forecast for a good few days to a week. The difference is rather than sitting in Essex wishing upon a star for snow, I live somewhere that reliably gets it each winter. A lot of these miseries in the mad thread should try it.

Seems to be grouping together now out at sea - so you might get something.

How long is this likely to stay on this sort of stream, pretty good IMBY!!!!

Nice covering here already, a bit graupelly but this is definitely an event.

An insane amount. You see the issue with southern coldies if they could take a chart showing sub-Saharan temperatures across the entirety of Western Europe and convince themselves that it could become a beast from the east with a little bit of shift in it's positioning. If you want snow, move up north - and up a hill - currently being treat to a nice sleety mix and the good part of winter has only just begun.

Nice bit of sleet, looked more like snow on the roof than the ground though.

Another cold rain event then.

Just popped into the mad thread. Talk about chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Less manual input due to Christmas and bank Holidays? (reminder tomorrow is also a Bank Holiday, if so)

Anyone seen the GFS. Surely even we get something out that

The calm after the storm it seems. Bloody cold but no precip in sight.

I've been summoned I see..... Synoptics for the next few weeks look promising but by no means in the bank yet. Any sustained snowfall would be welcome.

That thunderstorm last night was something else. It was too late to bother coming here posting about it (about 1.30-2am in the morning onwards) but constant thunder and lightning for a good hour. Flash flooding locally as well. I can cope with the thunder but lightning flashes 20 seconds to a minute (if even that far) apart when it's pitch black is probably the most terrifying weather you can experience in the UK to me.