ZONE 51

Some sunset pics I took earlier this evening somewhere inland near London.. Straight from the low reso mobile no enhance, not really needed they are colorful enough don't you think? (:

EDIT....I'm sorry, -----, I hold you 100% responsible. But... (-----) I warned you, I warned you severely about this. You have not come to the table today, I still don't understand what you did. He [----]should be going with you also... You're a very, very bad ---. You didn't [post IN] this thing properly. You're a lightweight. You're fired! (brief pause) I'm really angry with this situation. Clear off! - See the link for more quotes!! OK back on topic..

TTP amazing photo. Is that floods running a long down there I can see? (next to the line of trees) Nice photos everyone, those storm clouds are incredible Azazel.

MK nice pictures, it must have been an amazing site! excellent photography I viewed them on the big screen. The seal top right looking at the viewer in the sea is cute!

Yes the later half of the week many of us would be on the edge of our seats again watching the model runs come in! A hot and humid potentially thundery plume, this time more of a prolonged spell I think is possible (a window of more hours of opportunity this time round) but before that could get some heavy thundery showers or more.. but the most likely place to not see them is the SE!! (today)

By the way the lifted index chart I used for that image above was Friday's and here it is here!!!

You might have read the news about certain mags to be hidden from view? I have an idea.. (see image)

(18Z data) For Monday's storm potential just to post a few charts to admire. GFS - 500hpa - very cold: Total cloud cover 1800hrs: Some clear skies indicated along the south coast. The white areas are total cloud the greys are more broken cloud, this could mean that storms are why there is the cloud at 1800hrs for example. The sunny breaks earlier allowing surface to heat up. Dew points 1500hrs: GFS showing 15-16C dew points for some areas. Surface pressure is quite low: Surface temperature: 20-23C generally (poss 24C) Next upper temperatures at 850hpa: Cooling layer. Now the precipitation charts, first the 6hr then 12hr: 0600-1200hrs , quite a lot of activity indicated for western and northern areas early in the day. 0600-1800hrs, this shows widespread ppn activity across most areas for Monday(heavy showers and thunderstorms), the drier area being the SE. I'd expect that areas west and north of London would get some big downpours or storms. We can now take a look at NAE's ppn see what the model shows to GFS. NAE. 0900-1500hrs ppn: Only EA/SE not much about showing on these up to 3pm. But it shows the north/west/east and central areas getting a lot of ppn(showers/storms) The last chart is 1200-1800hrs looks like the SE might not get much looking at GFS/NAE.

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Looks like are just have to wait for the end of the weeks MCS for the SE then.

Have you seen the next 5-7 days potential! Lots of thundery showers/storms even could have evening thunderstorms for many areas today and Monday. Thursday heat plume could return with some home-grown and imported thunderstorms/MCS.

Thundery low it is Thursday, oh cannot get excited just yet but there are many chances or thunder before that potential event it's an interesting end of wkend as we could get thundery showers later, Monday too(tmw)

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/aktframe?TYP=niederschlag&KEY=UK&LANG=en&ART=tabelle&JJ=xxxx&SORT=2&INT=06 Not sure if they have a zoomable chart but there is a table of rainfall amounts and can display this on a map. Don't see it can be zoomed in though, maybe someone else can put a link here that you are looking for and for others too.

Welcome to the forum landslave. I will take a look see if I have a zoomable chart.

I expect if and when I visit somewhere across the lake I get to a small shop and expect to find a mass of postcards to choose from with lightning on... to send to the UK

Thought I'd put on the latest MetO Satellite image, there is a lot of heavy rain over northern England covering Scotland with the southern edge to Lancashire and North Yorkshire some of this rain is very heavy. Heavy showers have got into the SW and Wales as I type these are moving in and developing, there is clear skies across much of the south and with day-time heating that would help get some active thundery downpours going across many parts of the UK and Ireland today. (The white blobs of cloud into SW are the convective stuff and also down over Biscay/Brest)

There was 2 - 3 pages of anti-meto moaning (nothing personal ppl) (can remove just needed to say it) I tried to explain things in a sensible way to the posters who had a dig at the MO, not just because I am a fan of the Met O but because I understand why things change so often.

So many words of thunder/thundery in one local forecast is quite something .. can I get excited yet!

If your just having breakfast like me then here is an added sweetener..

The fact is the risk was there for the full-on thunderstorms this changed during the afternoon resulting in the forecasters updates on warnings changing, they did say that the risk of severe storms was now lower than before (can't remember the exact words) that was I think an update at 1210pm? on the warnings. @rich74, fair enough you didn't get the heavy stuff so your thoughts on this are different to those that have received it.

Not everyone looks at ppn radars, satellite images and the models to keep up with the changes, the warnings are there for national safety and awareness of potentially severe weather and can be viewed as a zoned area indicated by a color code of severity level and what type of conditions generally expected in that zone by a symbol (rain, snow..) these can also be viewed by those that cannot read the text forecast. Warnings zones move around unexpectedly as new model data/radar/satellite data and other upper air data is collected.

As on a previous post I showed that the SE was covered by heavy rainfall with embedded intense cells and thunder so the warnings were there for that reason, and also further north there is heavy rainfall which could turn more prolonged and heavier maybe thundery.

Can someone prove to me that there was not heavier enough rain over the SE(yellow zone) to warrant a yellow warning? The rain rates in places did meet the warning criteria, the zone in which it covered does not mean everywhere would receive the large amounts or heavy rainfall forecast, these rainfalls can be varied and local, the only time as far as I know to use more local warning's, (example: London) during thundery outbreaks is where homegrown thunderstorms develop locally, how can we know where exactly gets the heaviest downpours locally from such an imported system? (Edit - as on a previous post I showed that the SE was covered by heavy rainfall with embedded intense cells and thunder so the warnings where there for that reason) and also further north there is heavy rainfall which could turn more prolonged and heavier maybe thundery)

Just want to clear something up on the posts about the warning s and I need to show the radar at 2000 hrs (8pm) to do this. Plenty of heavy rain and intense cells in that lot and I experienced some of this and also several deep rolls of thunder!

See my post in the convective thread might find it funny! (posted just now)