19jacobob93

I understand everyone is starting to get sidetracked here and I appologise! But it is true that a rise in SSTs causes more CO2 to be released as the waters are less dense but that is probably a minute amount. The large amount of strong El Ninos recently could back this up. Of course skeptics have tried disproving the theories! It would be strange for them not to. But AGW has been taken to far in general. The other thing is that although CO2 is rising dramatically on Earth, the temperature changes on Mars in recent years directly corrolate to those experienced on Earth. So Al Gore, do Martians drive around in Range Rovers too? No, so this also points towards a factor that is possibly on a Solar cyclic scale. Please let's not gabble on about global warming on this topic though! I understand, I was actually replying to someone who brought it up but i'll shut up now!

Oh, I wasn't aware that a mini ice age has absolutely nothing to do with a change in climate.

You do know 'greenhouse gasses' increase with temperature not the other way round, and i am amazed that you think 'AGW' (which doesn't really exist) can prevent a glacial occurring! Also they have strategically dropped the term 'global warming' and replaced it with 'climate change/disruption' because that way i covers everything and if the Earth was to cool instead of heat, they could say "see! We told you it would change!" Of course it will change, it has done forever and we cannot control the fact! Please don't buy into what the mass media tells you, and don't fall for what is the biggest money-making scam of all time!

I wonder what she means by global warming though. If she means anthropgenic global warming (from human activity - which doesn't actually exist) then no chance! I can't believe people are so arrogant to think we can out-do mother nature and over power The Sun! If we were an inch closer or further away from The Sun, we would boil or freeze respectively. That's how much a tiny change in solar enery can effect us! Just look at the size of The Sun and the amount of energy it harvests. We are nothing compared to it and no matter what we do, we will never be able to change that!

Is it just me that's noticed a new pattern that has emerged in these past few years following low solar activity? Every year now seems to be the same: Spring usually starts quite early but with the odd cold snap, and late spring and very early summer start off very warm and dry. As summer goes on it gradually deteriorates, and by late July early August we start to see much cooler, wetter weather. We have quite a cold autumn and there are an abundance of berries. (supposed to foresee a cold winter!) Winter sets in very early with a lot of cold and snow before Christmas, it gets slightly milder at around Christmas and then colder again for another week or two after. I'm not sure about anyone else, but in West Yorkshire this EXACT same pattern has repeated since 2008! Since this spring has turned out early, warm and very dry, we will have to wait and see what summer brings. If it starts to turn cooler and wetter as we move further into summer then I'm not going to argue against another early cold winter!

Yes, but these individual cold months were caused by a shift in the jet stream causing a blocking pattern. This is caused by low solar activity, but they have only been lasting for a few weeks at most, if the sun remains quiet then it's possible the blocking patterns could remain for a matter of months! That's when we would have a real problem and possibly a return to Maunder Minimum type conditions. just found this: http://www.sciencene..._be_a_no-show__ I just think the reason why most people don't think the Earth will cool, is because they were looking forward to sunbathing in January, as the mass media has portrayed in the past few years! We're about average at the moment!

Due to the position of the jet stream, it would only be north western and northern central Europe that would experience a large change in temperatures. Yes most of the world has warmed over the last 20 years, but this warming has stopped and the global temperatures have been very slowly declining since 1998 (with a few exceptions like 2005 and 2006), but it is western and central Europe that have seen the biggest changes! The Sun didn't enter cycle 24 in March 2007 like it should have done, and the Sunspot number carried on declining until early 2010. Snow in October in London in 2008, and then Feb 2009 did not prove that low solar activity causes colder winters because it could have been a one off, but then along came 2 more very cold winters, which kind of did!

Of course our part of the world would get colder, AGW doesn't exist! Unless humans are driving round in SUVs on the rest of the planets, because that would explain why their temperatures rose at the same rate over the same time period! That's from 2008 though, they soon got rid of that idea just a year later when the sunspots disappeared and the UK had its first in a series of cold winters!