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GFSP was keen on +AO for sometime but now latest update shows -AO according to Ryan Maue.

Agree with glasweiganblizzard, looking at BBC1 weather just now, central belt isn't really effected with snow until tomorrow morning before rain arrives so unsure about amber warning never mind yellow warning! Although maybe more updated forecast now.

Meant to be at college but due to "snow giving slight covering" guess what? Yes first bus have diverted buses away from my area (Castlemilk)! What a farce. Now we have thundersnow (which is maybe a first?). Firstbus are saying diverted because of ice and snow. Hmmm...

Is that a Dinosaur walking over our country? Luckily looks like its aiming for the north sea! P.S comments regarding the wind image uploaded by Stormeh

Snow now off after first proper snow shower since early today, now roads covered too (slight covering).

Heavy snow here in SE Glasgow , landing on cars/roof but not on ground as its very wet but hopefully starts to land later (4pm onwards).

What about this one, heading for Greenland?! http://www.flightradar24.com/DJT100/53a8e49

Well the NAO and AO are expected to drop to at least neutral round mid-month and with MJO possibly going to phase 6/7 then don't think anything can be ruled out for this month. Of course colder conditions being less likely but possibility is there.

Talk of interesting period coming up on Saturday (snow I am guessing) on MOd Thread Fergie first to tweet about this tonight,.Whats the odds we are in firing line like last week to then come 24hours (Friday) before Midlands area becomes into firing line and we miss out?

Why with current output is the worry about the vortex over Greenland/NE Canada? Can we not get heights building in Scandinavia while vortex is positioned over GL/NE Canada? Or can we get heights into GL even though PV is located over NE Canada like what the current output is showing? Maybe PV strength has been underestimated this winter. Lastly some relief with the updated Cohen blog based on Strat and Ecm/Gfs comparison. My bad if barking up wrong tree. Cheers.

Snow warnings out in force for England, hopefully we get some tomorrow, Steve Murr reckons we or at least the highlands will in good position for the second low/shortwave in arouns 48hours time. Enjoy rest of day as I head back to listen to some of the Beatles.

If not on tomorrow(oh what am I saying of course I will be here tomorrow haha!) Anyway have great Christmas folks enjoy and health all round to all (remember to fill that stomach before hitting the buckfast ha!).

Before I head off to sleep, strat seems in favourable position going from latest runs today, always good to see (can be damper when chart for strat in around 360-384h away), lastly runs look good for E/NE winds over next week or so, with regard to this weekend weather is Scotland in good position for snow based on latest runs? Cheers.

I wonder if Steve Murr white Christmas bet will come off, looks less likely now but surely still some chance. Gfs and its brother couldn't be more different on latest runs!

There we go one run with downgrades and this topic goes downhill in a matter of hours predictable really (not the runs but the uproar in here this afternoon), wait until ECM has finished and then make conclusions. Anyway, still looking good for Christmas and on wards in my opinion, we are in fantastic position compared to last year and also we still have ongoing wave activity and increased chance of SSW/Wave 2 Activity by turn of the year. So no complaining from me today.

Looks alright I guess could be better haha! Interesting that the 78/79, 62/63 and 76/77(?) and even 2009/10 winters all got going just after Christmas (minus 09/10 which was few days before) and all had pretty negative OPI figures of 1.8 or lower and all had GL high. Though 1984/85 winter started mainly 1st week of Jan and the 1985/86 winter look liked was proper cold around Christmas but don't think Greenland High was in place , i may be reading charts wrong so apologies for any of this if off on wrong foot. Only fear now is things may get downgraded and hell was break lose especially in particular topic on here ha! I took the negative OPI from OPI topic itself and didn't notice OPI went far back as 62/63?

Well after my post the other day about lack of snow for Christmas period(I apologise heat of the moment etc haha) may take this back after reading latest posts by Steve Murr and now Fergieweather in Model thread, interesting and exciting read. After 4mins Fergieweather post had 16likes is that new record ha.

Gutted about the latest warnings, may have been our last chance this side of the year. Let's hope for once Piers Corbyn has got this week and Christmas period correct!

https://twitter.com/WSI_EuroEnergy/status/541951734864945152 this can't be right... or can it!

Interesting post from Roger J Smith(?) over on the Stratosphere thread regarding the upcoming low and what will happen after this, He's going for week before Xmas for march of the cold air coming to W.Europe whether this means UK am not sure, aye so anyway might be some interest to others in here! Hopefully we get some snow at Christmas period rather than Mild westerlies.

https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/536898939413594112 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/536900875655340032 New update from JAMSTEC today shows more in the way of colder conditions in UK although does state majority of Europe to be warmer than average. That's the good news. Bad news or more slight sign of concern is ECM showing lack of split in PV than recent. All this found over on Twitter(how wonderful and useful internet can be at times) and again I could have read these wrong.

Alright people, need some help trying to find what is the lowest temperature this month so far (all of Scotland). Cheers.

I have bookmarked this topic on phone and reading daily, must admit has helped me gather some understanding and importance to winter so thank you to everyone for that! One question I have been meaning to ask and that is, with wave 2 activity now being forecasted which by my gathering is good thing for us (W.Europe) but isn't there a fear of this activity being forecasted so early in winter a fear for rest of winter like PV being able to gather formation again few months down the line? Cheers and sorry if its not explained well.

Started reading the forums again on build up to the winter. I recently came across OPI figures dating back to 70's (correct me if wrong) and like always I didn't save the image (i know). As my mind can't help me recall where i seen this image i need help, so basically if anyone can help that would be great (and yes i checked OPI topic, no success). Cheers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/9066386/Frozen-Venice-the-lagoon-and-canals-ice-over-as-Europes-big-freeze-continues.html?image=11 Looks like Europe in getting steadily colder, USA, Central/Eastern Europe and Asia getting all the cold weather!