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  1. Comparing past winter with the last super nino winter of 97/98, we see ho much stronger the eastern nino regions were in 97/98. we can also see how this winter we had much cooler Atlantic, from the tropics all up to the north. 

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    And if we look at March so far, last 23 days mean, we see the Atlantic difference even more, with a very "-AMOish" signal appearing when comparing it to 1998. But it is also generally cooler north of tropics when compared to last year. 

    analysedsst-in-166.png  analysedsst-in-1d66.png

    And March so far this year. 

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    And last 7 days of March versus first 7 days. we can see SSTs have cooled off a bit north of tropics. But what stands out the most is the typical positive IOD phase signature. 

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  2. All is fine and good. Of course temperature has a major role in all physical dynamics. 

    But my point was of quite a different nature. I was talking to the "general population" about monitoring the stratosphere, where there is this bias towards temperature, which is especially notable when NWP starts drawing potential strat warmings. Be it minor or not. 

    Mostly people naturally expect every strat warming to produce cold shots and severe winter down the line. And that was my point that more parameters need emphasis when *monitoring* the strat. 

    But you are right when it comes to *calculating* the strat dynamics. But that is usually done for us by NWPs. And this year they were doing a good job, with the prediction of the warming and the potential effects. 

    One could say that the strat warming or warm strat temperature, as important in each aspect as it might be, failed us this year, which is just as normal as when it rewards us. 

    Thats just the complexity of the world we live in. 

    Kind regards. 

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  3. Yarmy explained one major problem why using monthly climatologies for daily data is not really recommended if you want good details. but if you just want a fast overview, its not that bad.

    That is why I usually use daily mean climatologies for daily mean analysis. The most common example that I use is the UKMOs own OSTIA 0.05° SST analysis, which is an L4 product.  

    Some examples I made today for twitter:

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    sstanomaly-in-feb20anom.png   sstanomaly-in-metoffice-.png  

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  4. Simply put, there is a disconnection, or weak coupling, together with possible stronger trop-forcing which can override the signal. The temperature has downwelled, but the heights have not responded. Pretty much what I am trying to emphasise the whole season, and which was the "theme" of this winter. The troposphere is kinda playing a game of its own, with partial coupling, but at this point in time the trop and strat are generally slowly starting to de-couple anyway. 

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  5. Still too much emphasis on the temperature and too little on the other energies involved. Were all this really worthy of hype in terms of super effects, I would be among the first to jump the train. But since its not, that is the reason for my lack of activity in here.

    Edit:
    I really do hope that this season was a very good lesson for us all, how each SSW is a unique feature and we cannot handle SSWs  with "Wikipedia-ish" approach. One thing that Mr. Judah Cohen also needs to learn, with all due respect. Regardless of the impressive temperature numbers, SSWs, are simply not just temperature-only features, and much more things are involved in the whole process that can make or break a winter period. 

    Regards. :)

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  6. Measuring (determining) a warming in (by) meter per second is asking for trouble.

    But thats exactly what it is. Everybody make the same mistake of looking and emphasising the temperature, like its THE alpha and the omega of the strat. All we always hear about is the temperature. But like this year when the warming has a negative effect, people cant seem to understand how and why that is possible "if like the strat warming is like the most certain thing to like make two months of cold shots and like a big greenland block". 

    Those meters per second have a lot more meaning than people give it credit for. Even proffesionals like Judah Cohen Phd. 

    I remember back in my strat beginings 4 years ago I was already emphasizing the importance of the heights when everybody was looking at temperature. Unless it was a split forecasted. Then it gets some attention.  

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  7. A little verification of the Glosea5 model. It runs 4 members per day,  perturbations + 1 control. So I decided to take 5 days worth of data, from 9 to 14 January. That is total of 5 days, which means 20 ens members. Generally, it had a good idea of how the strat dynamics will evolve, with the drop and everything. But it was a bit far out and it had quite a spread. But generally I wouldn't say that it is too bad at all. It did miss out on the recovery period, but some ens have it.

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    Gonna add GEOS5 forecast of changes. Further reveals where the SSW linkage goes and where not.

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  8. One more thing. Look at this, how there is a lagged response between 10mb and 300mb. And also notice how the MSLP responds also. Most notably in the second part, when the strat-trop coupling increases.

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    Adding PA 850mb temperature to the mix, since it is under direct SSW response via the cold shot. Notice also here how the strat fastly couples with the trop, showing decent correlations also here, not only in 3D animations.

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  9. Dont forget low solar activity. We have it all covered. 

    Let me just say while at it, that I hope this years SSW, minor or not, was a good reality check for the future. I (we) have said to be careful about not only this one, but every warming in the stratosphere has to be analysed individually. Seeing the warming at 10mb is not nearly enough of a reason to start the hype train and to celebrate. This SSW was an obvious no-game-changer before it even began, and everyone could see it if they would want to, even without the fancy 3D animations and graphics. Trust me, if this whole event would be worth the attention, I would write about it and hype it myself. 

    Now Dr. Cohen still believes in negative AO mid Feb onwards into March, so we will see how everything pans out. I will finish off with another animation, this time its EPV at 10mb, from the NASA GEOS-5 model, showing the SSW wave1 dynamics and the recovery attempt. 

     

     

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  10. Not sure why my text is underlined when I post from mobile. 
    But its enough to say that I am really unsatisfied with the current forum visual scheme. I want the old theme back please. There isnt even a preview function anymore. And it ocasionally crashes my browser when viewing it on Android.

    Enough offtopic.
    There actually is a very decent correlation signal bettwen solar flux and 500mb pattern in wintertime. Here we see a decent correlation of Solar flux and NAO pattern, which both have a tendency to be positive or negative at the same time. And the good thing about this correlation is that the index is independant, because it is a solar/Sun index, unaffected by Earths weather. So there is no autocorrelation like between SSTs and NAO for example, where we know that they can both affect each other.

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    The reason why it goes just to +-0.5, is not random or a coincidence, but because it is highly dependant on the QBO phase. Correlating specific solar phase with specific QBO phases should give better results. 
     

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  11. The only medium term effect of this minor SSW is the small negative dent in AO and NAO and also some other oscillationd. The AO dent is there thanks to the wave 1 phase which helps promote the Alaskan to pole ridge building. 
    The NAO on the other hand, owes its negative dent thanks to the second phase of this minor SSW, which is the grind-off of the wave 1 on the vortex, elongating it and establishing a cross-polar flow in the lower strat, sending decent amount of cyclonic energy into N America. And our negative NAO, west based, owes its existance to this American core, because the warm sector of this core is what causes this relativeny shortlived Atlantic ridge, driven mainly by WAA, and it goes away as soon as the vortex starts to regain its zonal angular momentum, and sending more cyclonic energy i to the Atlantic sector. That is why the NAO negative dent is relatively short lived, because you could say that it resulted from a "fake" warm sector ridge. 

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    Yes, its that simple...



     

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  12. Here is my latest animation, from 00z GFS showing geopotential height layers in 3D. Top down are 10mb, 30mb, 70mb, 250mb and 600mb. You can see the upward induced split, the effect of the Azores high, reaching into lower strat, and the downward propagating wave from the strat wave 1, creating the Alaska ridge in the process. 

     

     

    GEFS also sees the connection of the strong wave 1 with the troposphere, so here we have our fast coupling response. The Alaskan ridge is not all strat induced, but is greatly helped by the strat wave, makin more room for the ridge. 

    geopotentialheightisobar.png  rfgeopotentialheightisob.png  rfgeopotentialheightisob.png  xrfgeopotentialheightiso.png

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