SouthPennine88
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Well no because the PPN is running from West to East.
I see, my bad
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NW England sure but the whole of NE England/Yorkshire is in rain shadow which basically means no precipitation as the pennines sucks all the energy out of it.
I see.
I'm lucky I'm slap bang in the middle ...
West and at Altitude.
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Thursday's a mess lol put it this way we are not going to see snow or rain at this rate.
The pennines gobble up all the PPN leaving Thursday dry for the bulk of NE England/Yorkshire.
Why though? We have heavy rain/sleet/snow forecast all day for Thursday ... just because it is a mess doesn't mean it could turn into something more conclusive for some.
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Tempted to call it a Night already
I wouldn't call it a night, localized precipitation can be the norm anywhere on a night like this.
I certainly for one would be very surprised if I don't see any snow before 7am.
Coverings perhaps a little out of touch, but localized falls can give some heavy precipitation and it cannot be ruled out that the odd spot has a covering by tomorrow am.
Anyway, this is the third night since Friday that a lot of us are on snow watch ... and we could see a repeat on Thursday night.
Thursday night may be more of an exciting one due to the large amount of precipitation, it's just the temperatures that are in question
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I have a lack of external lighting since I moved house which makes it incredibly annoying for snow watching in the dark.
Hopefully though the light sleet will slowly turn to snow in slowly lowering temperatures (although there will be no precipitation for a good proportion of the night by the looks of things).
Still confident of snowfall at 3/4am ... A coating by the morning?
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There is snow potential for Friday - as indicated by the current 18z GFS, still, precipitation is uncertain though.
The battleground will be the temperatures.
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Sleet now falling, oddly quiet heavy
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If my memory serves correctly, it pretty much melted the next day.
Cheers, sorry for the question.
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Am I right in saying January 1995 (40cm) melted the same day?
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1'C here and overcast, looks set the main theme throughout the night except for a period of perhaps notable precipitation early dawn, most likely snow at around 0'C. Snow flurries possible anytime.
Tomorrow itself looks a cracker of a day, no clouds in sight, hopefully.
Things start to wobble though beyond a rather cold Wednesday night.
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The ECM wouldn't bring anything overly Wintry to the UK although the potential is still all there, let's just hope these less cold runs aren't the subject of a turning trend which would see a remarkable three days or so of model watching perhaps put a little more dull.
Absolutely nothing mild though in store yet, always a great sign.
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currently 3'C and overcast, and this looks like the predominant theme for the rest of the night with the possible occasional light shower ... I'm liking the fact that temperatures above 1'C are looking very slim at night until Friday at least.
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Still doesn't look like any precipitation has arrived yet here ... Needs to arrive soon if I am to record snowfall but I may call it a day tonight since the rain is almost guaranteed to arrive at least as early as Midnight - 1am.
Tomorrow looks bleak with cold temperatures coupled with rain for most with highs of 3-9'C East to West, generally.
Sleet/snow definitely in question for the usual spots at altitude.
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Its another tricky call predicting which parts of the region will see snow tonight. Once again anywhere with altitude away from the west coast will do better than lower ground especially west of the Pennines.
I suspect inland Pennine areas will see a decent cover before the snow turns to rain, whereas areas below 200m west of the Pennines might see a very slushy cover quickly washed aside by rain.
It does seem very quiet in here compared to Friday night even though the chances of snow for many are significantly higher - less marginal conditions, possibly the tv schedules having an affect.
Next week is a forecasters headache, conditions at the surface will often be marginal for snow, but in these set ups, surprise snowfalls often do occur.
Possibly the likely thaw of any snow tomorrow is dampening the mood, since is will mean lying snow will be very limited to only the usual locations (elevation).
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-1 Here now with snow forecast later this evening, quickly turning to rain with a rather large increase of 4'C before dawn.
I'm liking how things are developing for Wednesday Night/Thursday/Friday later on this week.
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Oh no,i would have walked up if i had known, we got a bit of a pasting but it had started to melt, i heard the roads were closed but i thought that was because of trees falling as well!
April 2012 was such a weird cold snap .. based on the fact that if it happened in January ... we would have experienced one of the more notable falls!
To be honest, February 2012 and April 2012 can almost compete with each other! Although February 2012 was certainly perhaps more Wintry.
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I bet the A62 Scouthead and the A669 Lydgate were non to shoddy in terms of some nice drifts either.
The April snowfall of 2012 brought incredible drifting to Scouthead as you may remember, this happens usually.
Lydgate on the other hand looks more like Val D'isere in the Winter after a heavy snowfall with a bit of wind with it!
I forget how lucky it actually is to live here ...
2008/09 had a much greater emphasis on marginal snow events, so while some inland and upland areas had a comparably snowy winter to 2009/10 and 2010/11, most coastal areas were restricted to only short-lived thin coverings.
Meanwhile, looks like I might not actually see much precipitation tonight- the heavier stuff is thinning out from the west.
I forget how marginal 2008-09 really was, it is amazing how different some members have views on that particular winter. Some say it was an almost non event.
Of course, if I lived just 7 miles away in Manchester, it would immediately wipe out December 08 and the many brief incursions we had in January 09.
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Wished i would have been living here for 09/10
2008-09 was also comparable to both ...
February 2009 was similar to December 2009 in many ways in terms of the overall length of the cold spell and peak snow depth (of course, December 2009 was quickly followed by something twice as intense)!!
January 2010 saw the A635 (Greenfield - Holmefirth) closed for a total of 3 weeks and 2 days, and the A672 (Denshaw to Junction 22) closed for about 1 week.
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2009-10 for Saddleworth Moor/Holme Moss/Wessendhead Moor had the greatest amount of snow lying days, 2010-11 was way way behind mainly due to the mild end to January and February.
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Of course, we could always use actual figures and stats rather than anecdote and subjective memory to decide where gets most snow and for what places it tends to last.
I shouldn't go on though since I live 2 miles away from 500m asl ... therefore there is no point in me going on ...
As you were though, there is no question my nearest city (Manchester) receives much less snowfall than Durham ... thankfully I do benefit from altitude.
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Are you counting wet sleet deposits in with your 'snowless winters' because trust me at 35 years an Oldhamer there have been a few almost barren winters during the 90's that felt mild overall and maybe just had the one or two 'fringe' events with a rain/sleet/wet snow mix. Mind you Oldham itself can have it's own microclimate, with low-lying area's getting rain and a few minutes into the hills receiving the white fluffy stuff.
Then again, perhaps there is a difference between Oldham and Saddleworth
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Indeed I mentioned it briefly earlier that the models were going for a clear split.
Manchester has a sleet shower forecast for around 5am ... further west than that and it's pretty much all rain, but further East it's all to play for.
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I think my worse ones would have been sort of 1997-1999 (Although I remember having to move out of my caravan in November 1999 due to frozen pipes. XD)
2006-07 was also rather non-eventful (may have been a snowless November 2006? Although I do remember the festive period was very frosty).
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It is strange though as I say that the Met Office would decide to put off precipitation by 3 hours (after the teatime update today)
Looks like they have got it wrong though ... as Arron said, it's fast approaching.
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I don't think you should be worrying judging by today's rather wondrous 18z GFS
Tonight though looks just overcast for us ... although certainly the possibility of light snow showers anytime from 3-7am ... this will be rather hit and miss though (as for the temperatures, unlike last Friday and last Sunday night, they should just about hold off to give us snow/sleet as apposed to rain.
Tomorrow itself looks a cracker regionwide, sunshine sunshine and sunshine ... tomorrow night looks mainly clear but precipitation arriving by Thursday mid morning