booferking

Quite a few gefs like this north westerly and cold but looks like it could last longer and turn northerly next few frames some of the snowest spells I've seen out west were charts like these.

Cold zonal just before Christmas lose the euro heights to the azores get lower heights further south best chance for something wintry not the worst shape of a vortex would quite happily take that instead of the usual rubbish over Christmas the past few years.

Im more worried about the big day than this northerly on 21st hopefully we find more amplification in the Atlantic and roughing into europe come the big day 18z might get there 13 years since last White Christmas .

If Ec control is similar to op run later @240hr we will soon find out.

Take your pick night and day.

Its funny you pick that chart as your the only one who would have an air frost and it would feel festive out of the whole of the GB/IRE.

Yes it does the EC control is the op extended and there are many geps in support also. Compare both charts remarkably similar that far out steady as she goes.

Ec control about offload the Arctic to our shores in time for Christmas.

Old Scrooge is a slow burner.

Yes of couse and lets hope op & control or correct all in the fi of course all a but of fun , excitement, playfulness, hilarity, and happiness reason why the emjo was at the end of the sentence.

This is our mild period the onslaught of cold starts just before Christmas and runs right through January

Love it drain the vortex away from Greenland lower height into Europe cold uk/Ire with snow on the ground on the run up to festive period.

Jma brings a cold northerly on 17th Dec.

Met office update colder weather still in there update hopefully the NWP lash onto it and run it down to a snowy festive period. Most likely to be unsettled with further bands of rain crossing the UK with brighter conditions and showers in between. The wettest and windiest conditions are most likely in the west and northwest. The chance of a colder spell of weather, with hazard such as snow and ice, does increase later in December and into the New Year period. However, conditions are more likely to remain generally mild and wet

Where you getting 16/1 for Newcastle best odds I've seen is 5/2? https://bookies.com/uk/news/white-christmas-odds-will-snow-fall-on-christmas-day-in-uk-2023

That's it its all over the cfs said so

And just like that Ec control starts ripping the vortex apart week 2 some amount of moaning in here tonight we all knew there was a westerly burst predicted.

I concur they pretty much follow the NWP outputs all this talk of having superior data i don't believe for 1 minute they were terrible with the cold spell recently could of made better weather forecast myself.

Yep we never seem to benefit from slack easterlies and frontal system breakdowns give me a roaring northerly anyday.

I get my magic stick and kaboom that sucker.

Thursday 7th on Ec control

Thursday 7th and Atlantic finding it hard sliding low snowy breakdown for some.

Ec control keeps us in the cold air till Wednesday that little uk high between the 2 lows holding back the Atlantic onslaught.

There's a serious signal late on the gefs 6z for scandi height rises biggest I've seen yet. https://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_panel.php?modele=0&mode=1&ech=300

It's a pretty extensive frosty morning across 2 continents.