Dawlish Today, 10:53 Post #174 Cumulonimbus Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 24-November 05 From: Guess! Member No.: 4,727 QUOTE(phil n.warks. @ 7 Nov 2006, 10:03 AM) Hi AM, Thankyou for that link,i have Bookmarked it. Interesting to see quite a large divergence from around the weekend,and some going for cold next week.(London). It illustrates why the sypnotics showing in the models keep changing after about T120hrs. I don't, personally, take any notice of ensembles. The charts will always change T+120+ and, in fact, to 13th March, despite the variability implied by the ensembles, that High pressure over the UK has been constantly there, for a week...... Hi Dawlish, To save space i have just quoted part of your post. I usually look at the Ensembles when the models chop and change so much as they have been doing lately. Differences are some times observed earlier than T120hrs. and this signals caution when interpreting the sypnotics. There are times,especially,in settled conditions,where there is little difference way beyond T120 hrs. amongst the members so you would likely see a lot of model agreement further out. Its usefull to observe how many members favour a particular scenario going forward,ie temps.inorder to get an idea of how probable a certain trend is likely to be,say in a few days,for example. I note other posters have already responded to your POV on this quite thoroughly already so i don`t think i need add anymore .