Lord Grogon

To my untrained eye, the cold trend from the start of Feb is definitely an improvement on yesterday. The mean is heading down.

Nothing beats complete ignorance. I was moving house at the start of Feb 2009 so was offline for a good few days. Had no idea what was coming. 8 inches of snow in Central London. Never experienced anything like it before or since. Plus my move meant I could walk to work. Best morning ever!

I can’t deny there are beautiful pictures, but something feel unfair....

Hello, first time I have ventured onto this thread so please be gentle. Last year I recall there was a fair bit of chatter about the GFSp having a cold bias. I've no idea how this would work in practice but I do recall it tending to through out colder solutions more often that average. Was that ever verified/resolved. Or was it just random internet speculation? Would be good to know as every time somebody posts a good run from this model it pops into my thoughts. Thanks

After today’s snow failure, watching The Day After Tomorrow to cheer myself up.

Or we get our own back in the summer when they get a 23 degree, 2 day “heatwave”

Saw some snow first thing this morning. But had to run 5 miles up a hill to get to it. Judging by the comments so far today, it looks like the Met Office had their amber warning in more or less the right place. Norfolk seems to be where the fun is happening. Perhaps their warnings overall were a little ambitious, but it seems the front pushed through a little quicker than the model was suggesting yesterday afternoon when they issued them. Later runs picked this up, but obviously too late to change the warning!

Wouldn't worry about it. That place seems to have some very strange rules. I think the mods struggle a bit. Not their fault, it does get very busy and things can get out of hand quickly. My biggest gripe is the echo chamber effect that seems to be getting worse in the 3 odd years I have been lurking there. Realists are more and more being pushed out by "Rampers". It's a shame as it devalues the discussion element of it. Knocker had the right idea last winter. Get his own thread for serious discussion where you are the only contributor!

Proof in the pudding. Let’s see if they issue a warning tomorrow. Normally, given how badly London copes with even a tiny bit of snow the Met don’t take any chances.

As a child who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s I learned to dread the phrase “a band of rain preceded by snow” So many times I would throw open my curtains hoping to see white, but instead confronted by damp, miserable grey. My Dad would then rub it in by telling me that there was a blizzard at about midnight which of course was washed away long before morning. That was in the West Country. As a Londoner it’s interpretation became more simple. “A band of rain preceded by rain”.

Behold the snowfields of East London. (sorry, can't make the graph on the right any bigger. The orange line means "flood" though)

My weather app is telling me it’s snowing in Upminster. So as long as I don’t open the curtains, I can continue to dream.

Good news is the latest GFS seems to be throwing up the mid-Atlantic block again. OK, it's just the op run and it's after day 8, but any straw is worth clutching. Off to the Mod thread to see what the experts have to say....

One problem is that the BBC now use Meteogroup. Their app (Weatherpro) uses different weather stations. The one for Brentwood is actually 12 miles NW in Epping at 110m elevation. Mine at Upminster is even sillier. It uses the City Airport station which is surrounded by water on 3 sides. Still rain all the way there. You may be lucky. Brentwood is a bit higher than Upminster. I once left Upminster for a run in the rain and there was lying snow just outside of Brentwood so even a little height can make a difference. The Met Office's weather station is at Brentwood Leisure Centre. That is currently showing 1 hour of sleet on Saturday midday. Its a start.....

It’s a funny place in there. There are clearly some very knowledgeable folks who post interesting scientific insights. But you have to post through pages and pages of rutting and ramping to find it! The echo chamber effect doesn’t help either. If you aren’t singing cold, you get a much harder time. I imagine the ECM going more blocky at day 10 has provoked the usual round of excited responses this morning.

First ever post on Netweather. I am pleased to report that it is snowing in Upminster, Essex. Plus another interesting point. Almost every regional discussion thread is showing as "hot". This is truly a national event.