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Hmm, feet well & truly on the ground here. Won't believe it until T0 and snow is actually falling from the sky!

Thanks, look forward to it I have photo's that my late father took in that winter, his job was delivering animal feed. I have posted them up in the past on here but can't seem to find the webspace I used, will have to re-scan them.....

/\ Please post up the pictures if you can, would love to see them. I remember a good dumping of snow around here in '86 I think.

Sadly wasn't around but I do remember some of the winters in the late 70's & early 80's have plenty of snow (compared to now!!). We just had central heating installed prior to '82 IIRC. The toilet used to freeze before that, frozen windows on the inside stick in my mind.

I gathered some up & stuck them in the freezer to show people!! Like you say some very odd shapes, never seen anything like it.

Started as constant thunder, then the wind really picked up, all of a sudden this sized hail was coming down!!

I have NEVER seen hail like this in my life. I'm 38 years old! How on earth do you attach a picture on this forum these days??, it used to be so easy!!!

None of that here, got a light dusting & that's it. Some ice rain last night mind.

Gona stick my nexk out here and say this is far from over for those in the west. Looking at the sat images it does look like it is heading over this way. Time will tell If it does just sink south then the computers got it VERY wrong!!

Thought it was supposed to track south west? If that still stands then there is loads to come, what it will be is another matter right now.

Rain here in Telford, it's been raning since 3pm'ish. Can't see this turning to snow TBH.

"According to the scientists' computer simulations, these volcano-cooled summers would cause sea ice to expand, sending huge glaciers hurtling down the then relatively temperate Greenland coast. As the sea ice reached the North Atlantic, it would have melted, mixing with the regular ocean water. The problem is that the ice had almost no salt in it, which caused the less salty surface water to stop mixing with the denser water below. This in turn would have wreaked havoc on ocean currents in the Atlantic, with the upshot being that less and less warm water could make its way back to the Arctic. An Ice Age was now on its way." OK, so we are told climate change right now is sending loads of ice into the sea, what will be different this time?

Which begs the question why for here(in my experience) the BBC/ITV fail to get remotely close for the very next day!!! I take evry forecast with a very big pinch of salt.

Interesting, thanks for that George.

Saw my first snow flake today What a contrast to last year..... Still, foolish to write this winter off so early, last winter wasn't that great in what have previously been good months around here (Jan, Feb & March).

So is this cycle still below or there abouts compared to the previous lows of the so called mini ice age? I recall a graph showing it compared to these but can not find anything up to date.

I see, however on spaceweather(I think) the number of spotless days this years in next to nothing compared to the previous two? It seems to have ramped up very quickly?

I'm confused, I thought not so long back we were being told the sun was going very quiet?? Now it is ramping up to a peak in 2013? I seem to recall graphs plotting the current activity matching the last very quiet spell, is that no longer the case?

Sorry but what is that graph showing? There is no info on the axis??

"This prediction comes from a [computer] model - the leakage itself is very difficult to measure because it happens over a wide corridor of ocean and because of its eddying nature," Enough said IMO!

I remember both of those well, the '84 one felt like a train going past at first!

Thanks George I'm kinda hoping we get a sustained quiet period that matches the little ice age so we can see if the sun really does play a much bigger part than the climate experts seem to credit.

Apologies as this is not my field, has the sun now woken up?

That is a very good point IMO.

Hard core is going outside at 4am to take a picture of the outside temp readout Who DOESN'T lamp post watch??!!