Frosty the Snowman

Any chance of this crap rain turning to snow overnight?

Mind the gap

The warnings miss us but if you check your local forecast there'll likely be some snow on it. I think the warning is being put out for the East now because snow is absolutely nailed on for them either way - they get a load of Easterly Showers if everything else doesn't pan out, where as we need a slightly more specific scenario. They'd probably put any warning out for us on Friday night.

Met Office appear to be coming round to the idea of snow reaching as far west as my little western outpost now. 'Placeholder Snow' from 6pm to 6am on both Saturday night and Sunday night

So that'll correct to around the Wash then?

Helicopter dropping could be an option if you get those sort of depths at remotely low levels, but they'd need to learn from the US's 1940s responses on that as apparently the wildlife couldn't get to a lot of it. Do you bring your sheep down and cattle inside for winter up in the highlands or is livestock at risk here, I'd imagine sadly livestock would be prioritised over wildlife in these situations? And of course the resources that might be used to these ends could well be prioritised for Covid use anyway - almost makes you wish for a early Spring. Their twitter feed replies on this image said they only had a covering down at village level, so over the next few days I'd imagine those of you in semi-rural areas will see wildlife coming down to the lower areas with less snow covering, the issue will be if you start getting a foot of snow at sea level with lakes freezing over.

A largely east of the country event. Definitely a close the curtains and switch the BBC off event here on the north west if that comes off. Hopefully a polar low can develop.

Seems like one of these where we just have to accept get the cold in first. That said, it looks like the Atlantic storm that just hit the US is increasingly expect to make it across in tack, imagine that bumping into the cold air or wrapping the two together, would give us some insane snowfall at the middle to end of February. .

I didn't put it there. Unless I've accidentally copied something. Is that meant to be a good sign?

I haven't a clue?

Don't take too much stock in these Even if Covid wasn't a factor have you seen how bad the trains get in these kind of easterlies. It might be two train rides to get there, gid knows how he's get back blockquote widget

Okay. Probably time to wheel out a debate that was being had a week or two ago with regards to preferences. Would you rather have a foot of the wet snow we normally get from the westerly events or 3-4 inches of powder snow that could be possible from an easterly? Honestly think I'd take the latter.

Christ on a bike if that came off it might be time to switch the national news off. Although more than likely the leccy going down would do that favour for us.

Next week, when you hopefully get buried under with snow cast your eye up north on the radar for an hour or so and watch the precipitation die. This a 2010 map of lying snow days (I didn't live here then, thankfully) This is the "Beast from the East" of 2018

I'm in the north west, equally as snowless as the south east on quite a few charts.

I think your impression of the north might be entirely based o nthe 1970s. There's some very upmarket places up north, often for a fraction of the cost of even downmarket places down south. The other points are taken,

He went off to play on his own football pitch, cos he wouldn't pass the ball to the opposition in the mad thread....

The solution has been suggested to namby pamby southerner's on numerous occasions. House prices are a lot cheaper in Scotland as well!! Just move, especially with WFH ever more common these days. People living south of Watford who complain about never getting snow are as daft as people living in Siberia complaining it snows too much.

I pointed this out in the moaning thread, I daren't try to do so in the main thread. I wish I could go back up to the North East for a week. This kind of easterly would be the dream up there as am sure @Geordiesnow can testify. Unfortunately Covid puts that in bin. I don't think I remember a straight easterly like this in the few years I've been down here now. Would a Southerly correction have any effect on whether the precipitation gets over the pennines, because if it did aid that then there more than welcome to one.

What a storm that is! Deep in fantasy Island though.

There's been a couple of ECM's over the years that have got down to T24 or so with the mother of all beasts only to fade away in the last few runs to mild Atlantic. Experienced model watchers will not bank the ECM til t12 for this reason. It can and has been wrong at extremely short notice, as can and have all models.

January most surely be one of the coldest and snowiest (total depth) months for quite a few years round here?

I wish people would stop saying this easterly is great for the North of England. It's an absolutely horrendous set up for anyway within the vicinity of Manchester or most of the North West Snow showers from that direction rarely make it across the pennines sadly making this a virtual non starter for this area. It's a great set up for the NE and Yorkshire, not so much the North West or Cumbria.

When the great North West Blizzard does come it will be all the more sweeter for having had to suffer a winter of looking into the Midlands and Yorkshire threads. Nearly 6 inches in some parts over there. Don't look at New York cross the pond though - 19in in some part.

On to the next pot of gold to chase at the end of the rainbow then. The weekend seems like fine margins between a bust and a great event.