Athens Heat

You need to be careful. I think this heatwave will have devastating effects in Greece

According to the models Greece will be in the eye of one of the most prolonged heat waves in its modern history...

Sorry I was in extended holidays! It seems it will be slightly cooler than normal. First indications show lower Ts than what is normally expected. But still very early to know

Below is a list of the stations from the National Observatory of Athens which present a hot semi-arid BSh climate. Most of them are in Athens Riviera. Tropical plants in these areas will need for sure extra care and more irrigation to survive. In total 38 meteorological stations from Greece fall under the hot semi-arid BSh climate (data until March 2023). https://www.meteo.gr/Monthly_Bulletins.cfm Here also a map of these locations for better visualisation

Oh yeah? Ok mate. It's in Athens where the official European T record happened in two locations actually with 48.0C So while average highs might be higher in Andalusia when we talking extreme heat Greece is the official champion. Spain's record is 47.6C

Mate you really crack me up! Seriously it's like talking to a child You quote the forecast page hehe Below is how the Met office actually uses climate summaries. The prominent feature in determining how hot/cold an area is and what's the impact of climate change is the average annual T. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/weather/learn-about/uk-past-events/summaries/mwr_2023_01_for_print.pdf In any case we welcome you to visit Lindos, the warmest area of Europe by far on average!

Lefkada is such a beautiful island. All of the Ionian islands just have this unique feel so much different that the rest of Greece. I hope you have a great time here in Greece!

Hehe, I am really enjoying the chat with you by the way. You are so clueless that it is entertaining. The only scientific measurement of how hot an area is pertains only average annual Ts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_average_temperature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_yearly_temperature No one gives a sh*t on avg highs. Average annual Ts is what counts in meteorology and nearly all its applications

Who gives a lemon only about ''by day'' . That's not how science works On average throughout the year South Greece beats the heck out of any area in geographical Europe. It is the very definition internationally of being the warmest area in Europe with Lindos being the absolute champion by far.

Hello, that's how daily means work. It's a relief you finally understood what it means to be warmer annually on average. Lindos beats Seville by almost 3C in average annual temperatures. That is huge! Virtually unbeatable in Europe. At least you have to admit that you learned at least 2 things from this thread: a) That Lindos is the warmest place in geographical Europe by far. b) That Cyprus is not a part of Greece. Take the win mate!

Sorry my friend, but the clueless things you have said are getting more and more impressive. The above quote takes top prize though. Cyprus is not a part of Greece, never was. And yes the whole world uses average annual T as the absolute indicator of how warm/cold an area is on average annually. Welcome to Meteorology 101. It's really pointless to argue with someone who has below average understanding of what they are talking about. Get over it my friend. Areas of South Greece are by far and by a huge margin the warmest areas of geographical Europe on average annually. Plain and simple.

That might be the single most ridiculous comment I have ever read in a met forum. It goes to show that many people have no idea about Greece's climate. I am actually surprised that I am reading this at a European met forum. My friend, do u know Greece's largest island? Crete? Well guess what, Crete and almost half of South Greece can see up to 30's in January! Yes January! This has never happened in Iberia. Our proximity to Sahara and Crete's unique orography give some crazy winter high Ts when strong S winds blow occasionally. We have had consecutive weeks in January or February in the past with highs of over 25C non stop in Crete. I mean come on, do your research mate. We are talking South Greece here. Not a random cool place in Central Europe. As for the frequency of snow in South Greece. Ok I don't blame u for this one. Since not many people are aware of the Aegean Stream and how this can be responsible for giving snowfalls in South Greece even at +7C or +8C. Snow at such high Ts means nothing on determining how cold South Greece actually is. Anyway the phenomenon is amazing and very beautiful. Please read more from the link below. https://community.netweather.tv/topic/84989-weather-news-from-greece/?do=findComment&comment=4778078 Btw mind you that the Aegean Stream influences only specific areas of S. Greece and most notably Crete due to its huge landmass. Anything E of Crete barely sees any snow. The port of Rhodes for example has never, ever seen settled snow the past 2 centuries that we have reliable sources. Kasos, Kastelorizo, Karpathos and various other islands in the Dodecanese have also never recorded settled snow at sea level the past couple of centuries. In fact coastal South Karpathos has never seen a T lower than +2.2C for more than half a century when observations start on the island. At the same time even Malaga has dropped to -4C in the 1950's. Come on. Are you seriously comparing the cold dynamic of a huge landmass like Iberia compared to the islands of South Greece?

Realistically speaking there are no areas in the entirety of geographical Europe that can match the average annual T's of Greece. This has been particularly highlighted the past two decades when Greece through the massive network of the National Observatory of Athens has created the richest and biggest met station network in Europe and probably one of the largest in the world for its size. We currently have more that 600 official met stations (both from NOA and HNMS) which beats by far the UK for instance. No one uses the annual average max to ascertain the warmest place on average. At least in academia, research, peer reviewed articles, national met offices and so on. Everyone and I mean everyone in the globe use the AVERAGE ANNUAL T as the single most defining factor of ascertaining how cold or hot an area is on average. The use of the average annual T is the central variable used in major met applications, study of climate change, global warming and so on. It is clueless to suggest that anyone who knows basic meteorology will use the average annual high to determine how hot an area is on average annually. Like totally clueless my friend.

Come on, I already did that. Piraeus -the port of Athens- from official stations has the highest average annual T in Europe from official 30 year stats. Cordoba has a mere 18.3C avg annual T. It's clueless to suggest Cordoba. Seville is the warmest in Spain and it is overtaken at every turn by many Greek official stations. Btw here is the official graphs of Lindos from the official station of the National Observatory of Athens. Lindos is undoubtedly the warmest area of Europe from official stations the past decade with 21.9C avg annual T. https://www.meteo.gr/climate/

Actually, that one which is the Feb record goes to Greece also. From the official station of the National Observatory in Athens located in Vryses, Crete with 32.1C

Greece can also do that. Practically anywhere in S. Europe this is feasible. Also below are the record high Ts per month in Europe. 8 out of 12 months Greece holds the record 4 months go to Spain (2 ties with Greece) 1 month to Portugal 1 month to France https://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/99974-inventory-of-the-weather-records-for-european-countries/&do=findComment&comment=1123134

Sorry I think you are confused. You are the one who spoke about warmer ON AVERAGE. That's Greece. No doubt about it. I am talking average annual temperature wise. So official 30 year stats show that the port of Athens, Piraeus for the period 1981-2010 has avg annual T of 19.4C vs 19.2C for Seville which is Spain's warmest on average. Did you even click on my photo? Leaving aside the official 30 year stats the Lindos station is a very much official met station of the National Observatory of Athens. Below the climate normals for Lindos (albeit only for 10 years) from the National Observatory of Athens. An astounding 21.9C average annual T. Values unheard of in Europe https://www.meteo.gr/climate/ (locate Lindos in the map and click on it) Where I do agree with you is that summer average high Ts are higher in Cordoba. Seville is second best from major Spanish cities but even Greek cities beat the summer average high of Seville. Most notably Sparta. Cordoba however is unmatched in average summer Ts. Another point is that extreme heat in terms of records is Greece again as the official European record of 48C was recorded in Athens.

If you are talking long term averages, then its Greece again. The whole of Athens Riviera basically It's a pity Lindos has a station only the past 10 years. I think however a full 30 years time series would again be around 22C average annual T. Btw here is an interesting article comparing Athens Riviera vs Seville average annual Ts. It's in Greek but with google translate you should be able to get a good idea. https://www.meteoclub.gr/themata/egkyklopaideia/athinaiki-riviera-thermoteri-perioxi-stin-evropi

Updated climate data for Lindos until Feb 2023. Next month it will enter its 10th year of operation with freely available data and the fact it persists to around 22C average annual temperature is significant for European standards.

Yeah, it's dry heat so it's not uncomfortable

Here you go guys! Lindos in Rhodes is the warmest area of geographical Europe by far With an average annual temperature of almost 22.0°C according to the official climate database of the National Observatory of Athens (https://www.meteo.gr/climate/), Lindos beats any area in geographical Europe! In fact it beats areas outside of Europe which are way south of Lindos. A few examples: It is is even warmer annually than the Canary islands, Cairo, Tel Aviv, Brasilia, areas in N and S Okinawa, Heyuan (located in the Tropic of Cancer) and areas of metropolitan Taipei! It even ties Daytona Beach in Florida! In August 2021 it broke the all time European record for the warmest month in European history! This is due to the constant hot foehn winds the leeward side of Rhodes experiences year round!

So let me try to give a rough summary of how varied the climate of Metropolitan Athens is according to the NOA, HNMS and WeatherLink met networks the past decade: Highest average annual temperatures are along the Athens Riviera with slightly over 20.5°C in Glyfada. Lowest average annual temperatures are to be found in Parnitha Mountain with slightly less than 11°C Highest average annual precipitation again in Parnitha at around 760 mm Lowest average annual precipitation again in the Athens Riviera with the Athens Marina NOA station recording less than 340 mm Highest average maximums in the center of the Athens Basin and W. Athens with slightly over 35°C in July and August in Nea Filadelfeia HNMS station and Salamina NOA Highest average minimums are to be found in the Piraeus coastal zone with around 27°C in August Highest average winter maximums of around 15°C in January are to be found again in the Athens Riviera Highest average winter minimums of around 9°C in January once again in the Athens Riviera Lowest average winter maximums in a populated area is around 9°C in January in Dionysos suburb Lowest average winter minimums in a populated area is around 4°C in January again in Dionysos Lowest average winter maximums for the whole of Metropolitan Athens is around 3°C in January in Parnitha Mountain Lowest average winter minimums for the whole of Metropolitan Athens is -1°C in January again in Parnitha Mountain There are of course more extreme values in the Attica Peninsula, but in areas slightly outside Metropolitan Athens. For example in the Athens Riviera part which is outside Metropolitan Athens the average annual precipitation in Anavyssos NOA station is merely 315 mm the last decade while in Ippokrateios Politeia in North Attica it stands at over 870 mm.

Well, administratevely speaking Mount Parnitha is also located in Metropolitan Athens and last year registered an average annual T of around 10.9C https://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/parnitha/NOAAPRYR.TXT Obviously not a populated area but just to showcase the T differences in Metropolitan Athens between coldest average annual T with 10.9C vs warmest with 20.5C in Glyfada. Almost 10C celcius in such a small area...

As 2022 is now over and in order for you guys to comprehend the climatic diversity in Metropolitan Athens check out the two extremes from the National Observatory of Athens Stations The coldest annually NOA station in Metropolitan Athens is Dionysos with a simple average annual temperature of 15.8C https://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/dionysos/NOAAPRYR.TXT The warmest annually NOA station in Metropolitan Athens is Nea Smyrni with a simple average annual temperature of 20.3C https://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/neasmyrni/NOAAPRYR.TXT Even warmer is the Glyfada Davis station of the WeatherLink network with a simple average annual temperature of 20.5C I doubt we have many cities in the world that experience up to 5C differences in average annual temperatures between coldest and warmest spot...

Greece is on the verge of breaking multiple December records not only on a national but also on a European level. The widespread National Observatory of Athens Davis fan aspirated met stations Network speaks volumes... Already we have areas in South Greece registering 20 days out of the 29 so far in December with maximums over 20C. That's a first in Europe for any reliable fan aspirated stations during December from a quick search I did. We have areas again in the South of Greece with average minimum temperatures in December that are over 15C! Most notably in the Port of Rhodes, Lindos, Amorgos island and Kastelorizo. Kastelorizo island in fact has an average minimum temperature of 15.5C so far in December. Values unheard of by Europe's standards.... Most impressively average December temperatures are over 17C in Rhodes and over 17.5C in Kastelorizo! I doubt we have ever seen something similar in Europe for December from fan aspirated stations... This will be by far the warmest December on record for Greece. Dating back at least from 1890 when we have reliable met observations for the country.