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1 hour ago, Catbrainz said:
I've wondered how would you guess the SW, Midlands and NE do in SE/NW splits? (I tend to see the NW as NW England, western Scotland, the northern half of Ireland and maybe north Wales and the SE as being anywhere east and south of Oxford) Speaking as someone from the SW they tend to be a mixed bag here we tend to ether join the NW or the SE depending if its a more N/S or W/E split or end up a halfway house with mixed good/poor weather.
Around here we tend to end up on the wrong side of any kind of NW/SE or W/E split. In the SE-favoured scenarios the dividing line is consistently about Hereford to Lincoln; most of SW England and S Wales can go either way it seems though the far SW is usually cloudy.
When it's E-W favouring the east, you usually need to be east of Birmingham to get out of the cloud. When it favours the west, the Pennine barrier to North Sea Muck takes effect from about Crewe northwards, the cloud often spreads right across the Midlands into Shropshire and even sometimes into Mid Wales (but not to the west coast, the mountains block it there); it's typically glorious in Manchester and Aberystwyth but grey and cloudy here. A more NE wind direction does give us some shelter and sometimes keeps the cloud further east, though they are usually cooler.
Similar with a NW-SE favouring the NW, it's western Scotland, Northern Ireland and sometimes the aforementioned parts of NW England and Wales that are on the good side. (To give an example, both July 2010, a very SE-favoured month, and August 2021, very NW-favoured, were exceptionally dull here).
The only split that is OK for us is the old-fashioned N-S one (south favoured), which seemed to be much more common in the 80s and 90s. There it is only Scotland, N Ireland and sometimes the far N of England that gets the poor summer weather, everywhere south of the Lake District is in the good weather. The SE-favoured split seems to have largely replaced this in summers since 2000.
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Although the second half has certainly had a lot of rubbish we seemed to have relatively escaped this month compared to further south, where it does look to have been horribly dull. At least this December has produced lying snow (2022 didn't) and it is already 10 hours sunnier than the disgusting December 2021. So not the worst December ever by any means.
Having said that, aside from the hot week in early September and the colder spell in late Nov and early Dec, it does seem to have been largely dominated by cloud, rain and wind since the end of June. Unless it is remarkably sunny the next 4 days we will have had 4 out of the last 6 months both wetter and cloudier than average, and none both drier and sunnier (August just made it as drier and November as sunnier). That's what I think is getting so many people down to be honest.
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2 hours ago, MP-R said:
Wow interesting. Our last white Christmas is more recent than theirs!
I was just going to say that! 2010 and it was more than 3 inches as well. Last "new snowfall" 2004, more recent as well.
It seems like they are having a very long snowless streak over there at the moment as well
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17 minutes ago, damianslaw said:
1992 was cold and frosty under high pressure, no snow.
2006, that was foggy and frosty. So was the run up to Christmas 1994 (it suddenly turned milder late on the 24th)
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15 minutes ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:
13 Celsius in June - "Brr it's cold. I need to put the heating on."
13 Celsius in December - "Windows wide open and no heating needed today."
13 Celsius in April: "Where is the first 20C of the year" and "If we can't get that why not a late cold snap" (April 2023 I said these to you a lot, you were pretty much an entire month of 13 Celsius)
13 Celsius in October "Is it too late for one last 20C" and "What happened to the October frosts I remember when I was young" and "If it has to be 13 Celsius can it at least be dry"
Conclusion: 13 Celsius and cloud and rain thinks it is winter because it rhymes with "white"
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Wow, did July 2019 just get a station entry from Shropshire? I think it's the first one, in that case it's definitely nowhere near as dislikeable as August 2003 (a near-complete fail round here). August 2020 is the other one I'm rooting to go out, I felt it was far too SE-focused in terms of heat, though it made up for it in these parts with thunderstorms.
June-July 2018 would be stuffed without Wales! Although that was a very good summer here, much better than 2003, it rarely seemed to get extremely hot, it was more sustained warmth.
July 1989 must be to this competition what Italy was to the last two World Cups, the incredible non-qualifier.
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Just asking on behalf my team June 1995, how come it lost on the "consecutive days above 30C" when it had 5 on the trot compared to 3 for August 1911? Two separate bunches of 3 isn't 6 consecutive days....
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Am I allowed to enter the last week of June 1995?
And put July 2016 in as well
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Just now, cheese said:
The shortest here was probably 2016 - we had lying snow on 29 April 2016, and on 9 November 2016.
2008 in a lot of places as well (April and October).... Yet both 2008 and 2016 were completely devoid of lying snow here!
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2 minutes ago, CryoraptorA303 said:
Of course:
UK climate districts map
WWW.METOFFICE.GOV.UK
This map shows the standard areas (districts) used by the Met Office when generating climatologies.Have they put the SE England/"Midlands"/"East Anglia" tripoint actually at Heathrow???? So it counts for 3 regions.... Can't decide if Skipton is NW or NE England, so let's just stick it in the Midlands as well
I'll have to say July 2022 based on that map (Coningsby is definitely in the E and NE region on there)
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Can you link to a map clarifying what "Met office regions" means for this please?
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3 hours ago, reef said:
It has indeed. The last time we had lying snow here on any day between 16th December and 12th January was back in Winter 2010/11. So 13 years ago now.
Its an almost month-long period in the heart of winter that seems totally devoid of snow these days. Its quite a strange anomaly.
Its almost a dead-cert the Atlantic will fire up in this period in recent years.
2 days in 2017-18 and 2020-21 and 1 day in 2014-15. (Plus two near misses on 13 Jan 2017 and 14 Jan 2015) But have to go back to 2010 for more than 2cm between those dates.
By contrast in the 90s and early 2000s that period often seemed to be the snowiest, 8 of the 12 winters between 1994-5 and 2005-6 had at least one day between those dates.
However, I've just noticed a strange statistic about 2023: the gap between the last lying snow of one winter season (11th March) and the earliest of the next one (3 Dec) is the shortest since 1996 (13 Mar and 19 Nov). Sometimes of course it can stretch to well over a year when we get snowless winters.
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Last of the snow disappeared in the early hours, now had over 24 hours of nonstop cold rain. Sometimes heavy, sometimes drizzly but it just hasn't stopped.
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Still on the ground now, it's not going to be a winter without lying snow at least
Earliest it's happened since 2010
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29 minutes ago, Don said:
Yes, far more than I have. Longden is about 120m, so like you say a bit higher. You possibly did better being in the heavier bands of snow slightly north of me?
I've seen snow cover starting at Dorrington before. Hope you get some tonight
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19 minutes ago, Don said:
Not as well as you're doing it would seem!
Barely covered the ground here.
Shropshire is ridiculous. I think Longden is a bit higher than here (I'm 95m asl)
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13 minutes ago, Don said:
You don't look too impressed!!
How's it doing in Longden Don? About 1"/2.5cm now in Bomere Heath, we had a couple of heavier bursts and its still coming down with small flakes. This has wiped the floor with last December here
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4 minutes ago, Matty23 said:
Snowing heavier now got a covering all ready
Yes it's properly coming down, got about 1cm now
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7 minutes ago, Matty23 said:
Lightly snowing in shrewsbury.
Good sign
Got a dusting in Bomere Heath, been light but carried on
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Extremely light snow falling, difficult to notice but it is snow
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59 minutes ago, Weather-history said:
For the EWP, the number of top 10 driest months since and including 2000
Jan: 0
Feb: 0
Mar: 0
Apr: 3
May: 1
Jun: 1
Jul: 1
Aug: 1
Sep: 1
Oct: 0
Nov: 0
Dec: 0
8 in total
For the EWP, the number of top 10 wettest months since and including 2000
Jan: 2
Feb: 2
Mar: 2
Apr: 2
May: 1
Jun: 2
Jul: 0
Aug: 1
Sep: 0
Oct: 3
Nov: 3
Dec: 1
19 in total
Does feel that wetness has dominated dryness since 2000
Surprised Feb 2023 isn't a top-10 dry month
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3 hours ago, damianslaw said:
2009 cropping up again...
I thought around the end of April how here since November it had been so similar to 2005-06; big December freezing cold spell with sod all snow and then a very boring January that at least produced one dusting in much less favourable conditions, a snorefest of a February and winter turned up in the first half of March... then April was a load of 11C rubbish... All set for a great July...
Hope winter 2009-10 stays away similarly
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First one this morning, 25th Nov is very late for this area (second latest in last 30 years, after 1st Dec in 2009). Sort of symmetrical with the late first 20C in spring I suppose.
Really noticeable how October air frosts have become much rarer since the late 90s, it was unusual to get an October without one before then.
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The anti-2023
in Spring Weather Discussion
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Take the first half of 1997 and the second half of 1995 and you're pretty close to the anti-2023.
The anti-2018; it actually looks vaguely plausible apart from that ridiculous October (that's a record low temperature for England, at an exposed coastal site in October?)