noggin

Yes. I told my daughters that we may get some snow later on Saturday and that it is possible that we may have some on Monday, but that even the Met Office can't say for certain. I think I've hedged my bets quite nicely there. As for my boss.........I told/warned him that we may get great dumpings of snow on Monday and, if so, I shall have to walk in and of course it will take me a lot longer to get there. He said "oh, it'll only take you about 20 minutes, so that's not too bad". It's about 3 miles distance, so I calculate that he is expecting me to be covering each mile in about 7 minutes. He's going to be in for a surprise on Monday morning. (If it happens, of course!)

Do we get to choose? If so, I'd like that one, please. Thank you.

Note to anyone who has a snow shovel........don't leave it in the garage/shed. Have it in the house so that you can dig yourself out!

Sainsbury's original price was £14.99 as was B&Q's, but they both reduced the prices. Sainsbury's were reduced to £4.99 and B&Q TO £9.99. Seems like £14.99 is the RRP, generally. I wonder if the price will go up over the next few days?

I don't know what to think/expect. So many ups and downs. I think I'll just wait and see what happens........anything else is just too exhausting. Beautiful day today. B&Q had snow shovels by the door today @ £9.99.

I was there! Actually there, in Exeter! At that very time!

I wish all tv weather presenters/forecasters felt the same. Sometimes I cringe when I hear them talking about bits of blue, holes in the sky and so on and so forth!

None taken. I know I'm one of the older members! I remember trudging through the snow to school in the Winter of 62/63. I lived in Devon at the time. My birthday is in February and when I was a child, there was usually snow, either falling or lying, on my birthday. Then when I got to my teens and twenties, it was usually just a frost. 30's and 40's were usually mild and damp. The past few years, mid 50's........things seem to be looking up a bit!

Sure am, sonny!

I remember Bert Foord! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Foord

Ah, I understand now. Thank you.

Very latest UKMO guidance just issued goes for the cold/v cold story predominanting into next week with potential sequence of battleground set-ups of snow to rain and back again in W/SW ; heavy snow potentially in any region; perhaps with a temporary relaxation of pattern but return of cold thereafter (MOGREPS keeping a N'rly well into 10-15d trend period). .................................................................... I've managed to copy Ian's post.........see above. This bodes well for us, doesn't it? I know that things can change, but at the moment it gives us hope, surely........there just seems to be despondency everywhere. Or is it just me?

......and yet, from Ian F's post at 00.28, things are looking quite good for the W/SW with snow to rain to snow (battleground?) Perhaps the "MOD people" don't live in the W/SW and that is why there is so much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth? Or is it because the pub run is always "rubbish" anyway ( ) and things will improve this afternoon? I keep saying that I won't go there again, but I find myself drawn in nevertheless . Thank goodness for the regional thread! I can't understand the place.

I've just come from the MOD thread. Why so many different interpretations of charts? It makes it impossible for us non-chart readers to really know what is being shown and makes the roller-coaster even more nauseating! Ian F made a very informative post at 00.28 (I'd copy it here if I knew how) but for the most part it seems to have been ignored - people on the MOD thread seem to be more interested in their own voices than in what a pro like Ian has to say. Trouble is, though, that unless Ian posts in here, one has to wade through a lot of drivel on the MOD thread before one gets to the voice of sanity.

Has he? Really? Blimey.

Ahh, that is nice! I hope that your kindness and compassion towards the poor unfortunate sheep is appropriately rewarded somehow. What goes around, comes around and all that..... It's another murky, miserable and drizzly day here.

No. Don't. It's not safe! There is a lot of sniping and arguing going on, because the latest models don't show snowmageddon. It doesn't seem to make any difference that Ian F has stressed several times that the models wll show wild swings whilst they get to grips with what is happening. For the sake of your sanity.......DON'T GO THERE!

I have just checked the MetO outlook for 20th January to 3rd February, and whilst they mention the possibility of below-average temps, they also refer to the North and East, not the South and West. I am, therefore, no longer excited.

I've just come from there............it's barmy! Thank goodness for the peace and quiet of this thread!

I have been getting quite excited, with the buzz here and on the MOD thread. Then I thought "hang on, noggin, what are you getting excited about ?" Is it just low temperatures and frost in the offing or is it possible that snowmageddon is coming? Do we know? Is anything "in the bag" yet? Is whatever it is likely to be a nationwide event? Could it all end up as just more mild rain and gloominess?

I saw some tiny bits of blue sky about an hour ago. I can't see them now, but it was quite exciting at the time!

Ah, I see! It's the polar-night jet as opposed to the polar night jet. That makes far more sense.........I had visions of it doing something different from 10pm until 7 am! Re the second bit.........I suppose it would have been too much to assume that if we have a soggy August to December, then we automatically get snowmageddon come January! Ah, well........ it would have been nice. Thanks for the info, btw, Coast.

In the third link, mention is made of low pressure bringing wind and rain to Europe and of the mild air which accompanies it being dragged up to the North Pole, thus causing the SSW which, in turn, causes a split in the polar vortex. Would that correspond to what has happened here, recently (i.e. months of Gulf Stream conveyed rain and mild rubbish) and is that why it is thought that a SSW is about to happen? Do I make any sense? I know what I am trying to say! Also, in the second link.......is it really known as the polar night jet? Questions, questions!

It isn't safe to say anything! Judging from the MOD thread, snowmageddon will be upon us come mid-January. Mind you, it was supposed to be upon us in December as well.

Go on.......be brave! They are only £4.99 in Sainsbury's. When I bought mine, yesterday, I avoided eye contact with anybody (but I could see them from the corner of my eye, looking at me!) Just think, they may remember us in a few weeks' time and wish that they had had such foresight!