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According to my weather gizmo it didn't get above -0.2 here today, can that be right? I know we are in a frost hollow, but still.

Hi Steve, can you clear your inbox so I can pm you, I shan't reply in here mate.

Don't quite understand why you have quoted my post, no disputing it's a very good post. Although you cannot deny it is in response to the recent let down, and is in complete contrast to Steves earlier posts this winter. Same thing happens with people every year though. I do wish you would stop baiting me though!

Dear oh dear, bit like reading Jekyll and Hyde at times, one minute all to look forward to and the next the towel has been thrown in on day 15. As much as I enjoy coming on here and particularly reading Steve and GPs posts, I think I am going to get a far better picture and much less of a roller coaster ride if I stick with the professional forecasts!

Currently snowing here, where did that come from!

Easterlys for me, ala Jan 87 (think it was an easterly anyway), biggest dumping I've ever seen!

Ah, you've beaten me to it - unless your'e into pagan nonsense then it's 1st Dec. I must admit, as a child I did used to perceive November as a winter month!

Absolutely fascinating, a very intriguing read and a serious amount of effort. I will follow with interest, Cheers chaps!

Someone is conspicuous in their absence, nothing to talk about I guess.

Thanks for the update Stuart, heading in the right direction I see - keep the updates coming!

Indeed, from a nice beasterly, ala Jan 87!

Couldn't agree more, GW again makes assumptions about what the net result will be and has only listened to those quarters that tell him the result that he wants to hear. Far from proven, and there are plenty that have a completely different view point.

Indeed, the key word or phrase you use there is 'ever recorded', i.e. a very small time frame indeed. And both seaways open for the first time in history? Again, recorded history maybe, but not in the history of the planet.

What like the ice caps melting, and us all disappearing under the sea?!

GW, is it just me, or is it that anyone makes a suggestion that for example things are better than this time last year, you immediately jump on it and try to present something to the contrary? Almost as if you have an agenda or some mission to convince us all otherwise. I know this forum is for healthy debate, but there are two sides to every story.

GW, can you explain something for me? If as I'm led to believe, the planet has spent 70% of it's history ice free, doesn't it stand to reason that it will happen again? If so, perhaps we are entering one of those periods (possibly - although I don't believe that's definite), where in the not too distant future we will become ice free and further down the line enter a colder period with expanding ice. I'm all for saving energy, alternative power generation, but I really don't think it's as simple as that.

Not heard that one before!

Makes no odds, you can't change the cost of fuel anymore than you can change the weather, like many things in life, you just get on with it. I wont be hoping for mild conditions regardless of the price of fuel.

14.0 for me please.

Blimey, some rather wild predictions going on here, based on not very much at all. GP always words his posts very carefully, he gives a suggestion of what events might signal, not what is definitely going to happen. Theres a long long way to go yet. 5 days isn't even nailed, never mind 60!

Lot's of ifs ands or buts in there, if you read the article closely there is very little in the way of fact in there. Still, they have to keep coming up with the sensationalist headlines to keep their funding coming in!

I'll go with temps being average to slightly above, but with it being very wet, June being very wet indeed.

I'll send you some photos then!

The silence from some quarters in here and the model thread this evening is almost deafening: :o

You're missing the point SF, nothing to do with straw clutching, I'm all too aware of the CURRENT situation. Are you that confident that this will be the case in 20, 50, 100, 500 years time? I think it's highly likely that people will be complaining about the long winters, then some time after that the lack of snow, so on and so forth. However, I know you won't agree with that as you are from a certain school of thinking, and before you respond with 'realism', I've saved you the trouble. Sadly, neither of us will be around to know, but I certainly don't believe we are on the express train to climate oblivion.