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31ins reported by Accuweather in Jaffrey, Southern New Hampshire. Staggering total for October.

Hi Verglas. Interesting hypothesis. The coriolis effect would be reversed. therefore in the northern hemisphere movement of air around low pressure would be clockwise, and around high pressure anti-clockwise. In addition weather systems would have a tendency to move east to west. The net result would be a climate similar to the east coast of the eurasian or north american landmasses at the same latitude. What the effect would be on ocean circulation I'm not sure. Probably a similar effect. Another effect might well be changes in the Earth's magnetic field.

Yes, not sure if its Johnprescottish or Alcoholish.

Ballater, Aberdeenshire 87cm level at 13.45 29/11/10

As a sage once said, there are lies, there are damn lies, and there are statistics! We've seen deeper snow on occasions even in the past 10 years, and lower absolute temps, but its the length of the winter so far that is remarkable. Whatever the arguments, this winter so far has in certain ways up here reminded me of the New England winter. Over there what normally happens is that the ground starts to freeze from about mid November onwards, so any snow that falls thereafter stays, even with the occasional milder interlude. Thats why the snowpack persists for 4 to 5 months. Here the ground froze early in December, layers of snow built up (recorded over 2ft level at one stage early new year), and despite brief interludes, the snowpack easily absorbed the rain. The ground remained, and still remains, frozen under the fresh snowcover of the last few days. We have now had 7 weeks of continuous snow cover in our garden. Whatever the statistics say, the spell has been quite remarkable.

44 days total so far this season. Max level snow depth 25". Very little drifting here in the valley, obviously plenty on hills. Yest was last day with 50%, but surrounding hills all still full and deep cover.

Tell you what, I'd love to see GP appearing on the BBC with his LRFs and musings on teleconnections. Let's start a campaign to reverse meteorological 'dumbing down' on the BBC!

Is it just me or does this chart remind you of something??? Maybe I should post this in a thread for sad blokes of a certain age....sorry ladies!

Sorry Eugene, but I thought this was a discussion of the models, not of what isn't there, otherwise maybe you should be posting on a 'guess the synoptics' thread!. There is no real evidence, If there is, show it rather than mock. And to set the record straight, no I didn't...

The GFS has taken an awful lot of stick from many members on here recently for its tendency to be too progressive, but it was the first to pick up on the breakdown when all other models showed the block holding firm over the UK, and despite the straw clutching of many in terms of reloads/beast from the east, there is no evidence that this will happen in the reliable, or even at all.

Some oranges appearing in the Scandi high too, showing the strength of the block. The GFS is oft criticised for going into default mode in FI (although I'm not sure if that's a strength or a weakness), but on this run it takes it almost to the end of the run before it can manage that. Remarkable agreement at last between the models, giving a high degree of confidence until possibly up to 10 days out. Thereafter who knows, but with 53cm of level snow here at the moment, even if there's not another flake (which there certainly will be) this is just stunning...

OK, just measured level lying snow in centre of sheltered lawn. 53cm (21" in old money)! And still bucketing too. Models in good agreement for more snow, Late Mon/Tues looking like a strong possibility, and severe cold towards the weekend to throw into the mix. How much news has there been on it? Sweet FA as far as I can tell, even in Scotland!

I don't want to be presumptious and speak for GP (and I applaud his technical knowledge which I can only aspire to in my dreams!!), but I don't read that into his post. I think he is priming us for a warm February, which given the snowpack that exists up here just now may lead to some pretty serious flooding if combined with rainfall. Mid-late Jan looks good for continued blocking in the Iceland/S Greenland area with a trough over Scandinavia, which would mean a continued feed of air of Polar/Arctic origin.

Over a foot of fresh snow overnight here, to add to the 8" that was already lying!! Upper Deeside gradually getting buried...

Taking a rest from model watching for couple of weeks. Will take this pub run with me though! Mild never quite makes it this far north, with a rapid reload and some real wintry weather throughout. Also seems to dovetail with Stewart's thoughts on the way the picture is panning out, so it may have some truth to it.

Think you've joined them, hic... Anyway, we can't knock the GFS for spotting a mild end to the month while congratulating it for spotting the current cold blast from about 2 weeks away. Caveat to that is that I broadly agree it is being too progressive given what I've read from GP's posts on the tech discussion. Some surprises likely over next few days methinks.

Tee hee. Temps only up to about 25C tho. Will still have some folk on the South Coast reaching for their winter woolies...

Sorry, I thought this was the WHINING THREAD?? If it is, why would PP need to 'lighten up????' Plenty of room for that on the ramping or model moods threads...my friend!

Sorry, mild Xmas is all my fault since i put a bet on a spread of white xmas locations in the UK. No fool like an old fool eh??? Any MU fans out there want to send me a tenner so I can scupper Chelsea in the same way.......??

Snow melted, ice gone, now mild and windy. On a personal level, just got my redundancy notice, my 17 year old son is in borstal, my daughter's on the game, my wife is having an affair with my best friend. Still, just before the bailiffs arrive to take away my laptop, I'll cheer myself up with a quick look at the GFS 12z. I'm sure it will only reinforce the beast from the east shown on the last 3 runs.