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It may be just a dusting but that is at about 2000ft. The main snow line in the Highlands right now is about 3000ft from my own observations today. Ben Lomond looks good with snow on it.

Amazing pictures there. The joys of a continental climate. Hot summers and the chance of heavy snow storms in the winter where the snow lasts more than 1 day.

Well with the cold set to return to round about Svalbard the ice should start to grow again. The ice in Hudson bay is starting to grow rapidly due to the cold pooling over Canada right now. It looks like the ice pack is going to wxpand rapidly over the next month.

The only bad thing is that the recent thaw has melted most of the snow. Heres to plenty of snow this winter.

Ive tried to calm it down. But most of the activity is coming from the Teeside area and North England.

Well I think the that the main reason that Svalbard has heated up is because the cold air has moved into Canada round about Hudson Bay. If you look at the time when Svalbard was way below average Hudson Bay was way above average.

Take most of Metchecks automated crap with a pinch of salt. You should be able to interpret the charts yourself and have an idea of the weather that way than Met checks "interesting" forecasts.

Its widely accepted that 1mm of rain will be about 1cm of snow. So I guess that 1 inch of rain wil equal 10 inches of snow. To measure the snow you would catch it in the rain gauge just like rain but then you would melt it down. When melted you would measure it with the rain gauge and that will give you the rain equivalent to how much snow fell.

Lesta stays in Leicester. The HQ's of the rampers.

The sensors in Glasgow are picking up snow ramping for Wednesday and Thursday all the way from Barlbrough. Keep watch for lastest developments.

The ramping on the model discussion thread is getting out of control. I have heard reports that SACRA have been getting their members to ramp up the snow and cold. The main rampers on the board for the past week have been Lesta who stays in Lesta. There is also Conor123 who still wouldnt be happy if the "Day after Tomorow" came true.

Hudson Bay in Canada is starting to cool down with SST returning to normal on the West side of the sea however the East side still remains extremely warm for the time of year with SST's of over 4C above normal. There will be continued limited ice growth in the Bay over the next 7 days. The problem is also that the Ice from the North hasnt even reached the North side of the Bay which is very unusual for the time of year. Most of the Cold air in the coming Week will be focused over Alaska and pretty much the whole of Russia East of the Ural mountains. Sibera is cooling down nicely.

Well untill Hudson Bay in canada starts to freeze over there arent going to be any large increases in the amount of sea ice in the near future. The re-formation of sea ice in Hudson bay is probably going to be very late this year even though it is late already. The problem is the warm anomolies and that the cold air has been mostly on the Russian side of the Artic so far this season which has prevented the cooling of the sea taking place. Looking ahead there is going to be limited ice development in the next couple of days as mild air moves up from the South of Canada, although the Western side of the Bay will still be in relatively cold air. I suspect this year will be another year for all those GW people to shout about the late development of sea ice in Hudson Bay and that the Polar bears are suffering.

How did the last ice age suddenly end. There wasnt any emissions from humans back then was there. So how are humans the cause now. The climate changes over time. It is never static.

I'll second that motion.

Level 1 or 2 ramping is beggining to happen in the General Discussion thread about some snow later this week. It is currently being ramped the most by lesta.

I never really understood the Glasgow ramping tonight. But as we get into Winter and the GFS throws up those crazy charts we need to be aware. Especially as the forum is now getting busier for winter.

Mr Data what was the cause of the really mild temperatures.

Well it did look like after a quite start to the season that it would pick up in September. Well we got 5 hurricanes in September none of them particulary powerful and then it just died. We've had nothing since the start of October things are starting to wind down now. Although there is another month left of the hurricane season so we could get something but its looking doubtful now. Last year it seemed that everyday had something to do with GW and how active the hurricane season was. This year when we have hardly any the GW people have all gone quiet.

I bet they were all blaming GW back in 1834 after that January. A CET of 7.1C. Thats hot.

Yes for me I dont mind if the cold keeps building up North till December or january. Because if it does come our way its going to be very cold.

I have to say that is an amazing picture. Its almost surreal. You know that it is a real photo but part of you cant believe that it is. Its a photo taken millions of miles away from the earth and potrays Saturn in such beauty. But the image that gets me most is of earth. That everything contained on earth: cultures, religions, people, animals. Are nothing more than a few pixels accross at this scale.

Carinthian what has caused the sudden drop in Sea ice in the Artic. I thought that Sea ice normally grows at the fastest rate now so how has it had a large drop.

Its still far too early too tell what the weather will be like in 2 weeks time but there is a chance that there will be snow. But dont get your childrens hopes up.

Looking at those charts its amazing to think the max temperature in Glasgow only reached -13C when upper air temperatures are at a relativly balmy -8C. Thats some temperature inversion.