Yes you are right, but I was not saying 84 was the last time it happened, just that today - with the temp hovering just above 0 and rain getting heavier reminded me of then. Looking at the temps across scotland, the colder air does not seem to be right behind the band of ppn. I think the snow is reserved for higher ground, but the heavier ppn is on the East. Prehaps another one for the NY Moors....