cyclonic happiness

Nothing of note. When I first got really into weather in the late 80s/early 90s, there was just more action here. The weather has been getting more and more dull as the years go on here. I used to go to the library ever few days and cart 8-10 books back about meteorology and was fascinated about the workings of fronts and snowflakes and low pressure systems etc and everything seemed to fit into the perimeters of what was written. It was almost like the weather was made just for my amusement. wind it on 27 years and the weather doesn't do what it used to here. Yes I'm aware that things change, (without the need of sarcastic inane comments, which I'm sure will go un-moderated as always by certain 'privileged' folk, ofc this one will magically disappear, lest not to rock the inner circle's boat etc), but there is less weather than there was, no doubt about it! Look at the falling snow and lying snow stats....less, look at the thunderstorm data, less, look at the heatwave data for the last 10 years, surely less. Even the air itself is different looking, no clear blue skies, only a milky blue at best. when was the last time this part of the Midlands got a trough from a northerly, followed by the clear Arctic air which lead to crystal clear visions for dozens of miles?

Live where I live and you'd marvel at the lack of weather.

30 mph winds and some rain that's had the clout knocked out of it by the rain shadow, followed by no showers (we used to get really defined fronts, with showers packing in after the cold fronts, that doesn't happen any more either) yes....that's boring :-D

You know the thing that is worrying me the most about our current weather? It's not that it's not cold and snowy, or even mild and stormy. It's that the weather is just so damn boring all the time, literally nothing of note happens for months and months. The last thing of note must have been that cloudburst in Nuneaton which flooded the town centre, I think that was in July, but there's been nothing since, not even much rain. At least if the charts are showing an ice age in FI, that's the only action we seem to get. End of moan (well, for now, I'm sure there'll be plenty more this year lol)

But there is a thread for that. Has been for a round 4 years now........nobody goes there, doesn't that tell you something? :-) The whole thing I love about this forum is it's dynamic and passionate, we cannot go around censoring folk just because they've not got a degree in meteorology. The mods do a good job as it is weeding out the occasional idiots, No need for change IMO. :-)

It comes to something when Egypt, Libya, Israel, Palestine, Greece, hell, even Los Angeles and Las Vegas, have all had more snow in the past 2 years than most of England. I though Climate change was supposed to make England colder? (well, it's supposed to do whatever weather is currently affecting it)

Seems ludicrous to me. The state the temperature will be 4-5'c and it end up just scraping over 1'c in the middle of town? I've noticed this lack of wanting to acknowledge lower temperature creeping in over the last 10 years or so. But some industries like Horticulture and farming, rely on accurate forecasts to know when to sow, or when to cover up crops etc, it makes the difference between me spending one and half hours fleecing the nursery, or not having to. I just think that if the temperature 'could' go down to say -1'c they down't show it as 5-6'c ("and in rural areas it will be much colder") Just put the lowest and the highest temps that could happen....what's the big deal! ><

Someone posted the 'average days of lying snow' map from the Met Office, and even my location says there are around 10-15 days of lying snow. Does that mean 'lying' as in it rain pretending to be snow? :-D Snow may be rare, but it shouldn't be extinct 2 years in a row, our children are not going to know what snow is...ehem!

I sincerely hope not, but I wonder......Is this a new era of weather in which we find ourselves. What with the weather going in cycles and such? We had the mild, zonal, 'topplers the only snow' type winters of the 90s/early 00s, then we had the colder winter and cool wet summers from 2007 until 2012, and then something seemed to change. The March of 2012 was amazing and totally out of sync with what had come before, very odd and the winter dragged its heels well into almost summer that year. But then by 2014 it was followed by truly the most boring period for weather watching that I've ever known in this area. We chugged through a dull spring, a boring (if nice) summer, with only 1 thunderstorm of note, followed by a boring autumn and until now (this week) a 'non'-winter. What do you guys think, are we in a new phase?

Well, if it's a choice between frost and sunshine and rebuilding my fences again, I'd go for the frost and sun everytime. And I disagree too, heights to the south can lead to cold synoptics if the Azores high bubbles up and spreads towards Scandi' with low pressure and the jet sinking over southern Europe. It's more encouraging to me to see HP over the southern British Isles 'as it stands' than raging storms. That was the point I was trying to make :-)

I'm a little bit happier this morning. We've been seeing a full on onslaught by the Atlantic for a few days now, but this morning high pressure is nudging a bit further north, so it's not going to be as much of a wind/rain fest as the earlier models. Maybe a switch back towards settled weather is on the cards, especially the later part of the ECM.

We still have potentially 3 months left where it can snow and be sub zero, even during the daytime. I'm not worried yet, I think people's thinking is that winter should be 'front loaded' and that after new year it's basically spring, but all the best winters I've known have been later in the season. Also, February has always been the coldest month of the year, and we've not got the faintest sniff of what that month is going to be like, have we? Let's just sit back and enjoy it, and wait for something to come along :-) I'm gonna try and take a break from the models for a few days (phut!) and hopefully it'll be a different world upon returning. (actually, secretly inside I'm happy so long as there are cold charts....even if they don't verify lol)

The GFSP seems very odd looking in FI? I don't think I've ever seen it go like that before? Do you think we're still trying to sort a pattern change out, I just can't understand the pattern it's showing atm...makes no odds?

Well, maybe the gods will smile upon us this time, instead of peeing on us from a great height. Must be hilarious watching all the failed snow events in the dead zone (central Midlands = no weather as such)

It's a proper trough and it's really strengthening! !

Might be ok until around 1-3am then they slacken off to next to nothing, sooooo....fingers crossed ay? :-D

I wonder if that precipitation coming in from the east, will pepp up and give us a surprise snowfall? It's going to converge right in the middle of the Midlands and the 850s look good? http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ It is intensifying!

We actually got up to 1cm of snow before the warm sector came through and the rain washed our accumulations away. I can't imagine the snow drought will last for much longer, the charts are showing colder and colder zonality, maybe at some point we'll have another battleground scenario. I can't stop hoping lol

Thought I'd re-write a certain Christmas Band Aid song, which sums up the mood on this forum. Sung by the 'haves' to the 'have-nots' :-D #"It's snowfest time, there's some need to be afraid, at snowfest time, everything turns white and we banish rain. But in our world of plenty we can spread a smile of joy, throw your arms around Britain, at snowfest time.# #But say a prayer, pray for the other ones, at Snowfest time, it's hard but when you're having fun, there's a world out side their window, and it's a world of dread and fear, where the only snowflakes falling, just melt and disappear# And the GFS and Metcheck, are just harbingers of doom, WELL THANK GOD TONIGHT IT'S THEM INSTEAD OF YOU!# #And there won't be snow in Birmingham this snowfest time, the greatest gift they'll get this time ice..oooh ooh oooh. Where nothing ever snows, no flakes or blizzards blow, DO THEY KNOW IT'S SNOWFEST TIME AT ALL?"# #Here's to you , throw snowballs at everyone, here's to them, underneath that mild sector, DO THEY KNOW IT'S SNOWFEST TIME AT ALL?# #Freeze the world, let them know it's snowfest time and..... Freeze the world, let them know it's snowfest time and .....# etc (ahh that's out of my system now :-D)

Snowing here again, but the wind is howlingly strong. nothing in the bbc forecasts about gales. I wonder if this storm is going to do something unexpected?

Snow here too, but light. The precipitation to the north is spreading southeastwards, hopefully it's be a darling and 'pepp' up.

Sometimes things pep up out of nowhere, remember that snowfall in 2012 where nothing was forecast for the Midlands and all of a sudden the radar just blossomed and we had 6-8" of snow! Them were the days! I just hope the weather's not been re-set of 90s/00's type winters, where we'd chase northerly topplers and if it did snow, it was only 1cm deep and melted before morning. Tbh, it does feel like that this year :-( photos!! :-D I need to share your joy :-P

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ Back-building going on towards north Wales and the system is starting to pivot south from that direction, I think we might be ok after all. :-) Also, heavy rain just turned back to graupel

We always miss out, even London does better for snow than us lol!!

'less cold'? It's only progged to be between 1-2'c there'd be a slow thaw, but it should stick in shady spots and such.