Well said, WIB. As a frequent reader and infrequent contributor to the model threads, I , like yourself, get very frustrated with this attitude. My take on this week, after a quick shufty at the fax charts, is that we are in for an interesting week, not least because I live right on Steve Murr's* imaginary line! Thanks, as always, to the experienced posters (you all know who you are!). Kind regards, Mike. *Edit: Apologies. That should be Nick F.