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3 hours ago, Andy Bown said:
If we continue with this dry theme then surely, exact Synoptics permitting, September may set temperature records.
Often Sept has been a nice month. The last month of consistent >20c (low 20s), I appreciate that’s down here. It’s the last months I’ve known high 20s and even 30c. Though, we fell just short of that about 10 years ago - on 1 October. Mad that was. Anyway, fine Sept had been the case even with somewhat monsoonal August months preceding!
And so, no doubt with how this summer has gone it’ll now p**s down through Sept!
But supposing we tap into heat and the ground is still somewhat dry, could be interesting for records.
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Seeing members’ pics and well; here’s mine. I thought I’d look at the data and I see, since 1 Jan, six days where’s it’s rained a quarter of an inch in a day (about 6.35mm, so not even a finger nail)! Tad dry!
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You can tell that front is edging in by the looks of the reports coming in. DPs have gone up. DPs of 15c and over down Bristol, Exeter, Cardiff, Bournemouth. Largely still 27c - 31c. Single digits remain here, atm. But expected to increase right? I’m not sure I see a great deal of rain/thunder. Makes tomorrow interesting as seems we could see another 30c plus day. Muggier I expect!
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Just seeing it, in black and white. But more so that DP. 40c with DP of 7c.
I feel like I’m back in Seville.
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18 minutes ago, Faronstream said:
If heathrow would use a serious Davis vantage station combined with a fan-aspirated radiation shield and not be surrounded by miles of concrete/asphalt the temperature would drop 5c, so not a new record by any means.
But people don’t walk about with fan shields in urban areas.
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I’m just a few miles from Heathrow and stepping outside is unreal, and yesterday was something itself. And I’ve been to many a hot place. Lived in Asia. I even got back from Turkey not so long ago.
But wow, the breeze is hot. You can feel the heat off ground, air, sun. Sensational.
Not only have we hit 40c we broke the national record before 12pm.
Sure it’s been quite warm to hot for a bit, but out of nowhere. Non-weather enthusiasts probably won’t quite appreciate quite what has happened!
52 degrees north!
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27 minutes ago, wellington boot said:
24C here in E.Sussex still at 2am. Feels like we may have gained a degree or two from a couple of hours ago also. We are probably not a prime location to be breaking the nighttime record, so given the extreme night time temperatures we currently have, I would think it is almost certain somewhere will break that record. Probably London at least.
We have, and there’s currently multiple locations above 24c. Shoreham and Kenley both over 27c (although Shoreham had been down to 22c) East Mids airport was on 28c and 1am.
higher 850hpa crept in…
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15 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
It wasn’t great in most of the south generally last summer but you probably felt it more in south east as you guys do well in summer usually
Yeah, now that was woeful for the amount of cloud. Deary me, I mean Aug under 100 hours sun. This Jan was just as sunny and I believe East Anglia had a sunnier Jan than Aug!
But the summer months, while cloudy, held around average this way. You’d not expect so much cloud before temps of 21-23c average.
And it felt like a longggg cloudy spell, can’t really it being life that before!
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5 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
No they weren't. High 20's max. The high was over scandinavia. NE winds prevailed.
Incorrect. 2018 hit 35c and in the doubt we had about 17 days of 30c at various points amongst mid to high 20s. July’s daily average was 28c.
I can’t speak for Dudley, if it was anything like Hinckley the weekend I was there then mid 20s sure. And the grass was green!
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8 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
I don't recall any 36c in 2018. 2018 was a beautiful summer until it all went tits up in July. Yeah . May. June and July were great. The great summers were 2003 1995 1990 1989. Probably missed one
35c in 2018.
But these kinds of temps are usually confined. And not so widespread.
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6 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
The south east have almost a different climate to the rest of country, surprised it's classed as oceanic as it's the driest place in the UK....Maybe I am biased as I am in the south and Dartmoor tends to shield us a little from the worst of western fronts. Don't know how it is there but its been soooo dry since the end of last year bar very intermittent rain fronts and the very rare heavy burst....Grass is yellowing everywhere here
So this here right now - even the leaves are wilting. Ground solid. And it’s not the first time. Like you say though, rainfall is lower that most realise here. Even I didn’t appreciate so much.
Shielded for sure, and with influence from the continent. It means warmer summers but can get some rather cold winter nights.
London is famed for rain globally but it’s totals are similar to many less rainy famed cities. Sydney I believe has more! Here it tends to fall frequently and little over the autumn winter, hence the perception. But long dry periods not at all unusual.
When it does rain, given the ground, lI think it’s going to smell epic!
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1 minute ago, kold weather said:
August really has been on quite the run of relatively poor summer months. Thats not to say its always bad but we've really only had one noteable hot spell in August since 2003, and that was in early August 2020. More often than not it seems to be the runt of the summer months, which is interesting because there were quite a few decent Augusts before 2003.
I feel Aug is mostly pleasantly warm, not hot. All the best weather as described precedes it. But often the temps will hold around 20-25c bar a dank day - in this quadrant mind. Clearly in some parts it’s rotten where we’d not doubt be complaining!
But then we have Sept and that’s been friendly and rather nice for good periods. It’s October where I begins to hibernate
I do apologise in advance when we now no doubt proceed to have a shoddy Sept!
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8 minutes ago, TwisterGirl81 said:
Maybe for you guys in the up there but I think the south do pretty well in the summer, especially the southeast
I was going to say I’ve seen many posts; finally summer weather, only good day, been rubbish so enjoying it. But I recall more decent summers than not. Maybe the SE is a lot better for it than we realise l, I don’t know.
We’ve seen 35c hit and exceeded more often in years. And 100/120 days plus of >20c is pretty standard. Not consistently below 20c until October. And what seems to be happening more is periods where the grass goes brown.
Sure Aug can be wet and no doubt will be given how dry it’s been.
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6 minutes ago, richie3846 said:
It's going to be a warm evening for sure, but I'm not convinced about the night record falling tonight. I mentioned this in the model thread a few days ago and nobody bought into it.
I don't know the exact specifics of the current record,but I do know the warmest night temps are by the sea, places like Swansea and Bournemouth are capable of warm night temps. London also. Everywhere else not so prone, and the last time we had a very warm night the humidity was higher (August 2020 I think?). The time before that there was an hot day followed by a dramatic clouding up in the evening which held all night, can't remember the year, maybe 2016 or 17.
I do not believe the very low humidity will sustain the temperature in the way that is forecast. Also, the record was a couple weeks later, so the sea may have been warmer. If I'm wrong, I'll take it on the chin and I'll take the jolly good birching that I deserve. If I'm right, you can all thank me later
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Generally low humidity isn’t ideal for keeping temperatures up.
It took quite an event to get a low of 23.9c and quite how it did happen, who knows. From what I can see online, London (example) was quite a bit below that. And London can hold onto heat from the day!
I’m not sure how good models are with temps for evening.
This then has a big part to play for tomorrow - can’t see a cloud free day.
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Took until 12pm, but finally shorts weather! Back to joggers now that the evening chill is setting it
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2 hours ago, mb018538 said:
Tomorrow is nailed on to obliterate the record. We’ve got to 38c here from a low of 16c overnight. Warmer airmass and warmer start tomorrow you can easily add 2 degrees on for 40c
I was wondering because today did fall a little short of what I expected. And I did though the national record would be breached, if only just.
But anyway, the drop and overnight low will be an interesting one to monitor. Could this break a record and if so it gives tomorrow a real head start.
Heathrow’s station saw an almost 19c increase once the sun was up. Reading Uni, almost 22c. Cloud seems to have hindered things.
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9 minutes ago, Arctic Hare said:
Still an area of 33s on that map. There are summers where that on its own would get everyone excited!
Seems almost inclement now
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Potential for low 30s on Weds? Heat pushed away but not quite totally. Well relative to today/tomorrow!
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7 minutes ago, mb018538 said:
Suppose it must be all the jet engines and runways making it hotter than Heathrow here at the moment!
Oh, most definitely haha
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34 minutes ago, Ms Rock & Blues said:
Yes, some people can control it better, small children & the elderly find it more difficult. The process in our body that maintains our constant temp is called homeostasis but we need to help it along during extremes.
Indeed. Homeostasis (essentially, same state) is a remarkable part of biology. But the harder it has to work to maintain that same state the more stress so a little help in times of extremes is of benefit.
There’s many processes going on and when we get hot a lot of work goes on to protect the body from problems.
Humidity can cause issues for sweating yes, but dry heat can also cause dehydration and you potentially not realise. If you’re hot and sweaty subconsciously you’ll likely drink more.
Edit: Re humidity the DPs, as expected, are kind of low. Not even into teens round these parts anyway. Having stepped outside to bring the bins in, I can confirm it is on the mild side!
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So we have some official 33s on the board now. Under 6c to go. Over 36.4c and we’re in top 10 - I believe 6 of which will have come post Aug 2003 when the magic 100f was hit!
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38 minutes ago, kold weather said:
1976 was just a constant barrage of moderate heat, with a 2 week exceptional period. This is clearly very different.
76 is like someone slapping you hard 60 times in a row. 2022 more like a heavyweight boxer delivering two haymaker.
Not sure id want either really!
Reading Uni has seen quite a marked increase. From 13.2 to 30! That I’m aware of it’s a very reliable station and actually shows wet bulb too (18.7c).
You see so many on Twitter discredit Heathrow as it’s an airport and has ‘all those planes’ yet actually it’s not even ahead now and I’m not aware of it holding any actual record. Besides, any built up area will be warmer - and that’s the relevant part. You’d feel that, if you’re there, and not the temp in a field
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12 minutes ago, mb018538 said:
Don't forget that 850 temps are also increasing through the day today. You can't try and compare the two days like for like as conditions are different, and this will affect rate of rise and absolute max for the day.
Well I did compare.
In any event, we’lll see.
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Heathrow’s station still tracking behind its same time value of 31/7/20 when it recorded 37.9c. It stated off lower too.
31/7/20: low 16.5c and 9am GMT 29.5c
Today: low 17.7c and 9am GMT 28.3c
13c v 10.6 rise in some 5 hours ish.
By 10am GMT it was 33c. No chance.
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Another appalling day of weather! Really can’t see anything of note (heat) for summer now. I’m sure some will say you never know… I mean Aug next, Aug
- it feels like it’s been mostly terrible since last Aug. And to top it off today’s incessant wind and rain broke one of my gladiolus! Anyway, rant over (for now).