johnny1972

Yes saw that ronan it certainly scared the S*** out of the fella being interviewed. I have often wondered what triggers thundersnow. I thought thunder was mainly a spring/summer/autumn event. Clearly not though. Hopefully the charts and forecasts will play ball as you say though your area will definately do better out of a N, N/E than mine. I hope this is not the case as i am snow starved. Its as well we dont rely on it to live ! lol

Do you mean for the East coasts N and S or just around your area?

Eagle/CS That would appear to be from the same line of shower activity heading in my direction towards County Down and Belfast Lough. Heres hoping. :unsure:

Yes stunning run indeed - i just hope those continue as the GFS has been suspect of late with the ECM an UKMO without doubt progging this spell the best. Just as i posted my last i looked at the radar and see a line of shower activity heading NW out of the Irish Sea towards county down and the Belfast Region. Maybe that answers my question re the cooler SST's ! :unsure:

Theres no doubt the charts are throwing up some crackin synoptics recently and i hope they deliver. Later in the week and later in the month are showing very positive signs with the models possibly now coming to terms with the Stratospheric Warming. I wonder will the cooler SST's around our coasts have a negative bearing on convective shower activity.

Unfortunately M.S i dont think we'll get too much at all. The milder air mixes in quite quickly taking the 850's above -5C. I'd be surprised if we see much snow. Inland and high ground probably do slightly better but not muck use to us were we live.

Well i travelled from Carrick to Belfast and back (short msg) during which time there were some very light flurries. However what amazed me was 3 gritting lorries on the M2 heading out of Belfast. It is so dry the wind and traffic is just blowing the grit to the side of the road. What also surprises me is the snow isnt forecast for NI on any forecast ive seen and the temp isnt forecast to be particularly low. 3C at present although D/P at -2c. This i dont understand as the 850's are forecast to be between -5 and o/night -10C. Also the air is so dry and wind so strong a frost wont form certainly on the roads so why the DOE are frantically gritting the roads does surprise me. Maybe they fear the Irish Sea effect again which wasnt forecast a year or two back. I dont know maybe someone could shed some light on something i clearly seemed to have missed or do they (the DOE) know something the general public here dont.

I thought u would know the Goat !!! Will definately make the effort to do the circuit next year ! Top resort with top skiing ! Maybe get that pint next year !lol

Thanks JO - have loads more but thats just a selection. As you can see the snow and weather conditions were fantastic. Pity its next yr B4 i get to go back.

Nice photos Chrissy - some good drifts there - bit like over here the snow level was approx 500 - 600ft.

JO Hope these work - if not ive thm on my laptop but wud need help to get them on here. I'll try this first. JO Ah theyve attached alright - enjoy !

Hi Blast I found every night very cold but yes the first 3 particularly so. Slopes all week were in perfect condition. Didnt go near Saalbach. Did the black from top of Zwolferkogel down to the mid station and all the blues and reds off the top of there inc the FIS W.Cup red. Skied the Schattberg West mountain over to the Schattberg Ost mountain and its runs. The 5km red off the top of the West mountain was awesome. Then skied the opposite side blues, reds and the black finishing most days at the GoaBstall !! Plenty of gluwein drank there and then the midnight show made excellent viewing !!!! Did some night skiing as well - great week and going back next year. Trying at moment to get a week somewhere before i head back there at end of January (23rd). Hope you enjoyed your week and of course the apres !! One thing i did notice though was i would question the depths shown of 125cm upper and 40cm lower ! Certainly considerably less in some areas.

Was in Hinterglemm, Austria from the 10th - 17th January 09 and the conditions were perfect. Plenty of snow with a light top up on the wednesday 14th. However on the way back to the airport the south facing slopes were suffering. The valleys and north facing slopes however (out of the sun) remained loaded with snow. Fantastic holiday. for anyone heading off - enjoy !!

I think we all know who the source normally is !! Mr Corbyn - enough said !! This article is printed in the press this time as a result of a quote from the Meto themselves. The evolution is now fairly consistant in all the major models and the change set to appear in the next few days. I think its fair enough to warn the public. If they werent warned and for eg with the cold - major snow arrived, i think the elderly and vulnerable would be caught out big time and at threat from the cold.

Well its a bit more specific in that it isnt the usual - temps over NW Europe inc the UK will be close to or slightly above the norm. At least they have broken down the 2 remaining winter months and stuck their neck out abit by saying January will be below average and February average. If that was the case taken with DEC so far it will be without doubt a below average winter temp wise which is something not seen on these shores for quite a while. I think cold lovers should be very pleased with this. The Met Office wouldnt be anymore specific than what theyve issued today.

Sleet here a couple of times but no snow falling or lying here.

GWO How r u ? Im not on here to agree or disagree with anyones point of view at all as i dont have enough understanding of the subject. However i do read the threads with interest. As i said to ICEBERG the average temp worldwide is downwards in recent times. It may not be exactly what uve predicted. How do u c things panning out this winter and yrs to come for - well were i live in the UK? Look fwd to your response Cheers

Iceberg Dont post very often but read the topics with interest. Test 1 ok fair enough there is no movement eithe way on ENSO conditions with them staying neutral. However TEST 2 i cant see were your coming from here. All averages to date are lower than those for 2006 and 2007 using as a trend. To me (maybe im wrong) this suggests this year is colder worldwide than the last 2. So this suggests a downward trend in temp albeit small. I do recall reading an article recently that the GISS figures for October were wildly inaccurate and in fact were Augusts temperatures used again.

Iceberg Nice post but please look at the following: Test 2 Phase 1 global cooling: There has been a 0.1 cooling in both the GISS and HADCRU3 data sets compared to recent years. However the measured cooling does not support the prediction. MSU does support the prediction and would need to see a continuation of the average temperature seen so far this year for the prediction to be fulfilled. It should be noted that all three temperature series have followed a warming trend so far this year though and that if this were to continue all would result in a failure of the predictions measured. Maybe i have missed something but looking at the table on the download and comparison to recent years the averages with all 3 data sets are clearly downward trending cooler than 2006 and 2007. Ok it maybe doesnt fit exactly with the prediction but cooling the world is. Weather forecasting isnt an exact science so yes i would agree further assessment of the data sets over the next few years would be required to see if the cooling trend continues.

GW Like some of the other articles attached on here they promote the view of one side or the other and are theories. Im sorry mate i don't know you at all but from reading numerous threads on here and the vast amount of information attached i have never come across someone so negative - doom and gloom. I think alot of people are starting to realise including scientists that alot of what is going on is purely natural. Quick point re the ice - if 1st year ice survices like has this year in the Artic - could you explain how then next year this then doesnt become 2nd year ice etc so harder to melt?? - same with the ozone layer it has diminished and grown over the last decade. To little is known about this yet and it may well repair again. 2nd Largest hole but yet one of the coldest winters with numerous records broken in Antartica!! Don't see how this can be doom and gloom. You may well quote re ice levels being down on last year - i think personally that would be more down to warmer ocean currents and strong surface winds than anything else. Please note GW this isnt a personal attack on you just my point of view but just cant grasp the doom and gloom constantly.

RJS Agree 99.9% with you (just the bit at the end Man WHO?) don't agree with !! Anyway would like to see the thread return to what it was originally which was a discussion of David's research and subsequent discussions. Look forward to your posts when you return from your holiday in relation to the comparing of notes between David and your good self. I myself get nothing out of this thread or any other for that matter when its a free for all argument. Hope it improves. We'll see.

Bluecon Another very good article posted. Yes alot of complaints about this program recently. Remember seeing it. Now OFCOM have dismissed the complaints more will now follow only this time about OFCOM !

Osmposm I have watched the threads with interest for a long time on here as well but have only started to post quite recently. The number of posts removed by the mods representing one side or the other is irrelevant - they have still been removed. The point im making is if you support AGW you are on a winner in the eyes of the vast majority on here and many other sites. This is fact and there is no getting away from it. However back the minority like David Dilley does in relation to natural cycles and you're ridiculed on quite a number of ocassions. I see no problem with frank discssion and differing opinions. And like i have said i hope im around to see who will be proved right. I certainly believe in the natural cycles of the world and there are too many unanswered questions in relation to our climate - period !