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where has this been moved to please?
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hello at last,
thank you LL for a great 'picture' of your memories of that memorable winter. As has been said it got to the point where one longed for it to end.
Here are my memories for the 1962-63 winter at a Royal Canadian Air Force Base at Langar, about 10 miles SE of Nottingham.
I hope this now comes out as I find how this site arranges data very confusing. I've tried its original Excel, then word in tables, now this way. Please take time to go through it and please excuse any errors as its all had to be re-entered several times!
I may do my recollections as a kid of 1947 but no data for that!
Data for RCAF Langar for the 1962-1963 winters, with a comparison with 1947
Langar is about 10 miles ese of Nottingham in a slight ‘bowl’ with minor hills all around it. The diary as such starts on December 26th 1962 and finishes at the end of February 1963. It did on a number of occasions appear in the Daily Weather Report(DWR) as the coldest place in Britain(not just in this winter)
General notes
The ground was snow covered continuously (Met Office definition for =/>half cover) for 44 days from 26.12.62 until 8.2.63
(At my parent’s house near Chesterfield, Derbyshire that was extended until 27th February,
A total of 63 days).
The ground at Langar was continuously frozen from 22nd December 1962 until 4th March 1963, a total of 63 days.
There was an air frost on every night, apart from 4, between 22nd December 1962 and 4th March 1963. (The only nights without frost were; 5.6.28 and 29th January)
There were 32 consecutive nights with frost from 1st February 1963 to 4th March 1963.
General notes on rainfall:
And there was a continuous frost(air temperature constantly below 0C) from 1500Z on 18th January 1963 until 0900Z on 26th January 1963(186 hours); put another way, almost a WHOLE week!!
There was 3.73 inches of rain (and melted snow) from 1 October 1962 to 28 February 1963
This = 38% of the average.
Monthly figures for the start of the cold spell on 22nd December 1962
Date min max mean
22 -4.4 2.2 -1.1
23 -6.1 0.6 -2.8
24 -9.3 0.0 -4.7
25 -11.8 -3.9 -7.9
26 -11.1 2.2 -4.5
27 -1.4 1.1 -0.2
28 -7.7 -2.2 -5.0
29 -5.1 -1.7 -3.4
30 -1.7 0.0 -0.9
31 -0.6 0.6 0.0
Mean temp for 10 days = -3.0C
Values for January 1963
Date min max mean
1 -0.1 0.7 0.3
2 -1.3 -0.6 -1.0
3 -0.7 0.5 -0.1
4 -0.1 1.0 0.5
5 0.6 1.1 0.9
6 1.1 1.8 1.5
7 -3.5 1.3 -1.1
8 -5.7 0.7 -2.5
9 -8.0 1.3 -3.4
10 -6.6 1.5 -2.6
11 -10.4 -5.0 -7.7
12 -5.4 -3.3 -4.4
13 -8.3 0.0 -4.2
14 -1.4 2.8 0.7
15 -7.7 2.3 -2.7
16 -2.7 0.0 -1.4
17 -9.2 -2.1 -5.7
18 -13.8 0.9 -6.5
19 -5.9 -0.3 -3.1
20 -3.3 -0.8 -2.1
21 -4.1 -1.4 -2.8
22 -13.6 -3.4 -8.5
23 -15.4 -3.3 -9.4
24 -12.2 -5.6 -8.9
25 -8.6 -0.6 -4.6
26 -6.2 5.3 -0.5
27 -3.9 2.3 -0.8
28 0.5 2.4 1.5
29 1.4 2.9 2.2
30 0.1 1.3 0.7
31 -1.7 2.5 0.4
Mean temp for month = -2.4C
Values for February
Date min max mean
1 -3.5 -0.7 -2.1
2 -9.8 -3.5 -6.7
3 -6.7 -4.1 -5.4
4 -10.2 1.6 -4.3
5 -8.4 0.2 -4.1
6 -3.7 -0.7 -2.2
7 -1.6 1.6 0.0
8 0.0 2.9 1.5
9 -1.7 2.9 0.6
10 -1.4 1.7 0.2
11 -1.8 0.6 -0.6
12 -0.1 2.1 1.0
13 -0.7 4.1 1.0
14 -2.6 1.7 -0.5
15 -0.1 1.2 0.6
16 -1.9 0.4 -0.8
17 -1.7 1.7 0.0
18 -1.7 2.2 0.3
19 -1.5 0.3 0.6
20 -4.8 2.6 -1.1
21 -3.9 4.1 0.1
22 -2.1 2.8 0.4
23 -2.8 1.9 -0.5
24 -6.7 0.6 -3.1
25 -9.8 2.2 -3.8
26 -5.2 4.8 -0.2
27 -4.6 2.8 -0.9
28 -3.3 5.4 1.1
Mean temp for month = -1.1C
Mean temp for January and February = -1.7C
Comparison of temperatures at Langar between 1947 and 1963
Year Month Avge min Avge max Mean Jan/feb mean
1947 January -1.0 3.5 1.3 1947=-0.5
1963 January -5.0 0.2 -2.4 1963=-1.6
1947 February -4.2 1.5 -2.3
1963 -3.7 1.8 -0.9
So for the two months being compared 1947 showed a mean temp of -0.5 and 1963 gave -1.7C
I cannot get data for frosts and snow for 1947 but for 1963 these were;
days with snow falling= 20 in Jan and 19 in Feb; lying snow=31 in Jan and 19 in Feb.
Air frosts in January were 26 and 28 in February.
I do remember catching 2 sometimes 3 buses to get back to my parents house. The old style double deckers with a minute so called heater at the front. Then trying to keep warm at their house, with just coal fires and no bedroom heating. With the Canadians there was central heating, so hot I only had ONE sheet on and the window open in my bedroom!
happy memories
I hope you all enjoy.
John
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morning
foggy here with a temp of 6.7C, with sun trying to make its way through the murk.
NB: all snow lovers see snow forecast fromPaul Gilliver??
morning Paul, hope your headache soon clears.
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hi all
well i've just spent one hour retyping all the stats up in word, only to discover that this forum will not accept columns of figures in the order i put them in, so back to the *****y drawing board. I will get them on here eventually.
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what a mild day, the odd glimpse of the sun, no wind and a temp of 11.8C. By the way my mean temp for this month still stands 3.0C above the long term average for November; it dropped 1.0C during the last cold spell into the weekend.
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morning
another mild one, mostly cloudy and been a bit of drizzle overnight but dry now; temp is currently 9.6C after a min of only 9.3C. Bit different from a few days ago!
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Hi LL
I suspect you and I could call one another Grandad and not be far off the mark!
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hi
ref my comment about the 62-63 winter. Its in Excel and this forum system does not like it one bit soo I shall have to manually re-do it in another format to post it. This may take some time!
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Hi LL
I've got a weather diary from end Dec to end Feb 63 which I will try and post for winter 62-63. Makes interesting readin. Thanks for yours.
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i've already PM'd you TM you lucky deveil, enjoy it though. Go for a walk, get the sledge out whatever.
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morning all
dry, clear and frosty with a min of ms01c so the first air frost for this winter.
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Hi Paul G
you should be a weather forecaster with that info and insight. How come you never told us all to expect this lot?
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Hi TM
how is the snow, settling yet, temp?
cheers
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Hi TWS
Yep I reckon we both need to go and see TM to 'share' the snow with him!
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here its been raining since about 1130 with a slow fall in temp and pressure, temp is now down to 6.2C
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Hi Tm
much as i expected i'll keep you updated on the track of the low but at 1,000 feet up you are in about the best position UNLESS sods law operates and the low moves ene!
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hello
its dry here but cloudy with a temp of 8C; the dewpoint has dropped during the night and is now showing 3C
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hi
to update on the progress of the cold air. as we've seen from Peter and Jailender the cold air has now got as far south as the Moray Firth and is making steady progress south, probably about 25 mph at the moment.
North of the mainland
Shetland, at 18z, had 290 28 gusting 48, ps04C nil weather and pressure rising 5.1mb
Thorshaven was 35022 gusts 34, temp 1.2C with rain and snow shower,
whilst way up north at Jan Meyen it was MS06(day Max Ms05C) in slight snow and a northerly wind.
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hello Peter
I've not heard that weather syaing before and dare not ask if that is from first hand experience!!
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welcome Tommy, you will soon get used to this mob. All keen and very friendly, well most of the time. If you are a snow fanatic then this place is made for you. All sorts of things available on the main site also, just browse around.
Oh, my hobby horse, please tell us in your avatar data where you are reporting from?
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so those in north Scotland should see a dramatic change before morning, if its not already occurring, strong northerly winds, maybe some snow if you are lucky, or at least soft hail showers.
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hi
update on lerwick/sumburgh airport(which is about 20-30 miles south of Lerwick)
the forecast is for the northerly to set in some time after 18Z this evening.
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hi
update on Thorshaven weather at 1650GMT
the cold air is in, northerly 28knots gusting 43 with temp down to zero and dewpoint Ms03C, pressure rising rapidly
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hi
not sure how but the attachment i wanted kept in has gone but the other one is still there! the attachment is supposed to show the Met Office 12Z chart.
Our younger days - Winter memories......
in Historic Weather
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Hi Tm
look forward to that and tks for the kind comment.