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This band is struggling to make it to the Pennines looking at the radar. We are still on the leading edge and what started very light is now even lighter. However the temperature is around freezing so what bit is falling is sticking. Hoping for some major intensification shortly or it will be a non event.

Nothing new there then. They moan about how the Pennines stop it moving east and yet time after time get the lions share while we get torrential sod all. Never mind come June and July normal service will resume and the rain will come knocking again whilst the E&SE have the BBQ,s out

Now that does look good. Shame it's out in FI. Could be an interesting Countryfile forecast later.

Yes looking good. The only slight worry in the statement would be rain,sleet and HILL SNOW for Monday indicating that much of the region is then on the wrong side of marginal but the further outlook is very cold which makes a pleasant change from the usual one snow day followed by weeks of mild.

Radar shows the rain/snow or whatever it is tending to follow a more north - south track with the bulk of it currently staying in the Irish Sea. Hopefully that will correct later but it would just about sum up our region if it slid down the coast and buried South Wales and the West Country instead.

Doubt it but there is an opposite to downgrade and we are certainly due one of them.

Just been out for a paper and it's certainly a cold raw feel even without a breath of wind. Currently -0.9c here but no way of telling DP's. I'm very confident for later today and tomorrow and already the sky has filled in with that silvery grey coloured cloud that usually means snow is imminent. I was surprised when I opened the door to see a few flakes of snow on the cars from a rogue shower overnight.

HC where is the snow on Tuesday coming in from, showers, frontal. sounds interesting.

Not over worried by it but you are right that it is nearly with us and much earlier than expected. Radar is showing showers already at the coasts (previous posts back this up) and the forward edge now looks to be as far into the NW as Preston. At this rate we should have regional wide reports of precipitation within the next hour to two. Figures crossed that the reports are all snow.

East Lancs should do ok out of the coming snowy spell. You should certainly get a covering and possibly a few cm before it clears away. Whether it will stay as snow throughout though is far from clear but hopefully it will.

Yes Ramp, there could be snow falling in our part of the region by lunchtime at this rate and it is looking good for a snow throughout event.

Yes it's coming but the worry up here is whether it will hit the ground wet or white. White is still favourite, especially in the initial stages and over high ground but this is NW England so if it can go wrong it will.

This mornings Met O forecast looking good for snow later and again tomorrow across much of the region and this has been backed up by the BBC News 24 forecast just shown. Those away from the coast stand a better chance and as usual, altitude helps. Some of the high Pennine roads could get tricky later today and first thing tomorrow. After that the models are still showing no rapid return to mild, possibly occasional advancement of less cold air but the trend is Easterly and colder over the coming days so, although an Easterly usually gives little opportunity for much of the region, there is a chance of possible battleground set ups to come. All in all, not perfect and certainly not looking 1963 but could be worse.

You're in a decent area for snow chances both tomorrow and Monday and it would take a major downgrade to not get a good covering out of it. What we need though is for it to remain as snow until the end and then be followed by a hard frost to hopefully set the scene for further falls in the coming days.

Post 336......I've already nailed my colours to the mast.

By the end of Monday's fall I'm going for 2-5 cm from the coast to the M6 and 5-10cm across most other areas. Altitude will play a major part though and I can see the higher parts of the Pennines getting as much as 15cm or more from it. If it plays out as indicated I would expect the largest fall IMBY since December 2010 and certainly in excess of what we had in February and early December 2012. That said though I can't see the totals for December 2010 and certainly January of that year being threatened this time around.

Don't think even Diane Oxberry can deny snow is going to fall but I certainly hope that, on Monday evening after their digging out roads in the SE and we've had bugger all that she doesn't harp on about how we've escaped the worst and should be thankful. I might just regret sticking a foot through our new telly.

TBH BT even the Met O has a E and SE bias and personally I don't have a problem with a bias towards those regions where the majority of the members live. My problem is when any model which doesn't show extreme weather on their street is one for the bin. Anyway latest BBC forecasts, both regional and national are showing good potential for late tomorrow and Monday.

Always will be a bit more marginal towards the west but I think that those of us in the west of this region have more chance of seeing something than those in the South West. The updated Met O forecast still looks good for us.

The GFS has never really bought into this wintry spell though and has always looked acted like a kid who wanted to be somewhere else. However it is worrying when a model downgrades but hopefully it will come to its senses.

Some talk on the model thread about downgrades to Monday's snow but it looks ok to me. Obviously downgrades can occur and my last tender would always go on one above an upgrade but we are getting too close in for a major change in either direction so I'm very confident of a snow event, potentially significant one over the vast majority of the region from late Sunday onwards. Some places could be looking at 24 hours of falling snow, possibly not over heavy but enough for the totals to build up. I'm certainly quite upbeat about our prospects at the moment.

I wouldn't worry to much about specifics shown on post code forecasts. They are computer generated and are often wide of the mark when it comes to snow. I think that providing the warm sector keeps away and the uppers play ball then all of the region should join in the fun. It may become sleety at the coast at times due to the obvious lack of altitude and the effects of warmer and salty air but just a few miles inland this should have little or no effect. I suspect that inland area with even a modest altitude should see a snow only event and the usual suspects towards the Pennines could get a pasting.

Yes would certainly take that chart, especially with the massive area of NW Scotland waiting in the wings. Tbh I am very confident that all of the region will see snow from this event and the west may do very well out of it. Hopefully the thread will change from will I get any to how much then on to OMG as time goes on.

A bitterly cold day here with temperatures around freezing and made woes by a stiff breeze. Slight snow grains in the air but not sticking. Certainly can't see any major changes from last night other than Monday's snow band is looking to arrive several hours earlier with snow likely in the northern half of the region by late Sunday afternoon.