iand61

Other than the warm spell in late March, I don't think our heating has been off this year and apart from the one day heatwave forecast for Monday I can't see that changing in the near future.

What a horrible morning. Blowing a gale and heavy sleet here so I would imagine that some of the Pennine tops could be white by now. Roll on Summer.

Me neither, I like to see snow falling and on the ground but TBH i get a bigger buzz from a good thunderstorm. Snow is ok but there is a trade off with it (freezing cold mornings and bad driving and walking conditions) not found with most other weather and the freezing rain crap from this week just puts the tin hat on it.. Yes i like to go out walking, wrapped up in cold and snowy weather but i'd sooner go out walking in shorts and T shirt in warm summer conditions any day. It's all down to personal preferences but as i get older, mine is heading more and more into the warm camp.

Temperature currently at -0.5c here where it has been steady since about 1.30pm so it's looking like another ice day today. The last few days have been really strange though with the bulk of the cold appearing to be the surface type and this having the unusual effect of stripping more of the snow from the hills than down in the valley.

Currently -2c here with just the slightest hint of flakes of snow in the air. Even though there is little in the way of a breeze it still feels bitterly cold and raw outside and several days of damp and drizzly conditions along with freezing temeratures have left the trees and walls appearing silver.

TBH i don't want freezing rain. Only experienced it a couple of times and only once in the long number of years i've been driving and believe me It's just to dangerous to be out in. If we can't have snow and IMBY it looks unlikely from the scurrent set up then i'll gladly settle for bog standard wash away rain. For all those in more favourable areas for snow...enjoy it folks.

Currently -3.9c here compared to -2c at this time yesterday so unless cloud and warmer air moves in a long time before rain starts I expect we will be looking at the car version of dancing on ice tomorrow.

It looks like thats the last bits of it though. Hopefully a good frosty night tonight and then 4 inches of crisp snow to get out in tomorrow and then possibly more top ups in the next few days.

Agreed, i don't think i've ever known a fall of snow last so long and yet drop so little although i've just been out to the car and it's finally decided to come down a lot harder.

Been snowing here since about 12 oclock but other than in short bursts has never really got going so even now we have only got about 2-3cm. that said though it's really fine snow and even the slightest wind is blowing it around so it looks quite nasty outside. Just hope it intesifies later as all other conditions seem perfect for a decent fall.

Radar is showing a definate forward edge reaching the Lancs coast now although with breaks behind before the main area arrives. I would immagine that within the next hour or so steady something will be falling across the coastal areas.

CF looks like you've confirmed something which i was thinking in that unusually, temperatures in the east of the region are currently higher than those further west. I'm only at -3.8c, similar to yourself 15 miles south but at similar altitude but -6 & -7c are being mentioned west of the M6. We've got clear sky's so it isn't cloud to blame but possibly a bit of inversion going on. How, if at all that effects what happens later today i haven't a clue.

I can't see where folk are getting the idea that the front is stalling from. It might have slowed a tad but not stalled. The radar shows a steady movement out of Ireland and towards the Western mainland. At this rate i would imagine the first cloud to start reaching the coast, Cumbria especially within the next hour or so and south of Morecambe Bay by mid morning. As regards precipitaion, that should start reaching the region by late morning or lunchtime although what is falls as is anyones guess. IMO this is in line with what last nights forecast was saying although i haven't seen one today.

Thats what i've been thinking as well. Even a brief 2-3 hours of snow would drop a couple of inches on the ground and as you said the duration is expected to be much longer than that. My feeling with this event for our region is that it's all or nothing and no middle ground. We either get a situation where the warm air mixes rapidly and snow turns to sleet turns to rain in little time or, and i think the more likely option at present is a prolonged period of heavy snow giving amounts of double what the forecasts are talking. Obviously though some parts of the region will fare better than others regarding amounts but even low ground in the west should do very well out of this.............unless everything backtracks tomorrow.

With all of this talk about snow, as anyone any idea what the winds are going to be like. Normally with frontal rainfall, there is at least a decent breeze and that would be sufficient to cause some blowing of snow and drifting. The frontal snow events i've seen have usually been accompanied by strong winds.

It was pretty bad earlier in the week and the mods did start threatening to delete and move posts. Whether it happened or not i don't know but last night was better. You won't stop the SE bias as most live down there but it is annoying at times.

What we could do with is a Feb 1979 failed type of breakdown. Plenty of snow blown about by plenty of wind with plenty more cold waiting in the wings and not a sniff of rain.

Good fancy coming doing mine on Sunday then. That pitiful bit we had on Friday night was too little to shovel off so it's still there in the bit where the car doesn't go. If nothing else it shows how cold it's been since.

I'd have said less than that although it felt like it trying to clear the drive. Maybe i am just being plain greedy then but i really want the region to get a good dumping from this although i wouldn't put my last tenner on it. I'd probably put a fiver each on us ending up with rain and slush and EA & the SE getting plastered.

Depends on whether the front carries on through or stalls over us but if anyone in the region is going to see a decent fall i would say yourselves are in a favoured location.

I hope your right. I can stand a good fall of snow at weekend when i don't have to drive in it although it is a long while since we had what i would consider a good fall, December 18/19th 2010 (can't remember which) was ok but i'm feeling greedy now.

Ours is at -1'c but i've just been outside and with a breeze now blowing. it's got a perishing cold feel to it.

Thanks for that Bt, I better leave it out then and find the sledge.

Shovel is ready but does the blue indicate rain? If so i might as well put it away again.

There is always the scenario where the snow arrives over the region, becomes stationary and the cold air is never mixed out. After a 48 hour fall amounting to over 2 feet the easterly finally wins out and we are plunged into a 3 week long deep freeze. Highly unlikely i admit as even a moderate version of this became extinct 30 years ago but we can always hope.