Sunny Leith
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Edinburgh Castle webcam tells the story ... the esplanade is about 300 ft above sea level as I recall (more or less)
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Been a good-day Blitzen...
I don't have the excuse of a dog to get me outside ... but was there "the smell of snow" when you were out in it ? I don't know if theres any real basis for that or if its a childhood nostalgia thing. Certainly seems real enough to me !
Thanks for that by-tor. We appear to be singing from the same hymn sheet then? Took the dog out and it's absolutely beautiful out there tonight. The snow is sparkling with frost. Lovely.
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Still the gift that keeps on giving here in Leith. Stars were out 30 minutes ago ... but just heard snow grains rattling off the window and its coming down fine style again. Not going to break any snowfall records here but definitely looking at waking up to a nice crunchy white scene in the morning. Fantastic !
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Can only basically concur with LS. The progged snow coming south for Friday into Saturday will probably certainly affect Northern and central areas. Whether it will do anything in the central belt/ Glasgow/ Edinburgh itself, then historically I'm dubious on that. In my experience its pretty well scraped dry by the time it gets down here. Expecting nothing from that for Edinburgh/SE to be honest (despite Rob McElwees Saturday graphic).
On the other hand there'll be evidence still hanging about from todays episode and that keeps things nicely seasonal whatever happens in the next 2-3 days. I can't say a Northerly has never delivered here in Embra toon, but its rarer that hens teeth in my experience (weather watcher from 1972 onwards)
Edit: Easterlys have often delivered here when they occur, so no contradiction in my mind that todays snow did happen ... and that the forecast weekend snow (for here anyway) probably won't.
Anyhoo, anyone have any feedback on what to expect ah-lah 18z?
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Quite bizarre. The 10:30 Rob McElwee forecast basically ignored any overnight precipiatation forecast for Scotland. From the evidence of the radar, it would have been 10 seconds work to at least grace the Scotish east coast/central belt with a few white dots to reflect reality. However nothing nada zilch zero on display. I must be imagining the snow I can see looking out of my widow.
SHABBY.
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Anyone got any reports from elsewhere in Edinburgh ? A dusting in Leith usually translates to better levels elsewhere in the city. Any reports ? Ta !
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Ditto re the metoffice/BBC. However, Heather (our very own local metperson) should have used her EXPERIENCE to make a better forcast for today. Thats what many on here did last night. As others are saying here, met/bbc too scared to commit to a Scottish forecast, they'd rather hide behind catch-all generalities.
Francis @ Sky weather actually chopped off Scotland in it's entirety earlier when announcing snowfall for the UK. I can sometimes see why annoyance occurs on here or elsewhere with regards a full UK outlook in weather.
With regards the Met O / BBC - I honestly don't pay attention to them anymore...get a good set of links, bookmark them and follow the weather yourself. :-)
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Sporadic flakes here in Leith, the frost set in a a couple of hours ago so the previous stuff lying on cars etc has all crunched up nice and hard.
By the way for Embra/South Fife/Central belt/Glasgow, decent Metoffice experimental radar here ie NOT the clunky low res stuff they usually provide:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/pws/invent/weatherradar/
On the broader radr picture looks like theres still enough activity in the North Sea from Aberdeen southwards to provide a bit more here and there overnight.
Still a bit hacked off at the poor metoffice/BBC forecasting for eastern/central Scotland today. Very careless or more likely "couldnt' care less"
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I usually take the opposite of whatever these folk say. They'll consider themselves correct if it snows anywhere up here in that timeframe.
They missed what happened today (pretty inexcusable given the synpotics) - and nor have they even acknowledged it yet !
So ... pinch of salt for the weekend as always ;-)
louise lear said N,Ireland and Scotland can expect heavy snow over the weekend as she was being interviewd...BBC 24
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I only have Leith as my benchmark. Streets here mostly wet but bits of snow lying about inappropriately like one of these bad TV movies where they make artificial snow and scatter it about randomly.
Dunno if the shower activity will keep going the next 6-12 hours, seems very intermittent but in the higher parts of town (Liberton where the in-laws stay) they say its just "white" (maybe a cm or so)
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Radar echoes looking less bright but more organised. Some areas could see snow off and on for a while yet it seems and with a little bit of elevation in E.Lothian, Fife, and Lanarkshire, Embra suburbs & hilly parts og town ... some folks could do pretty well before the nights out. Keep us posted. Snowing here in Leith again as I type but not feeling we'll get a repeat of this mornings heavier shower activity.
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They're all over the place on this one. I think like today, the best way to know whats happeing on those days will be radar and looking out the window. Today has already shown that any specific details of a Metoffice/Beeb forecast are often quite wrong 24-36-48 hours in advance.
I dont understand, the BBC local weather video for Scotland shows a massive amount of snow for East/Central Scotland on Sat then for the West on Sunday...why is there no warnings for it? This is pretty much a dead cert isnt it? I dont understand it at all. There is so much hype about SE England yet looking on the Sat images, it looks like the big showers are going to miss it completely and flow right down the channel!!
Can anyone shed any light on this snow event on Sat and Sun?
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Mate I just saw 2 of them gritting George Street. 12 hours too late as usual !
Just had a delivery and the driver tells me parts of Edinburgh are anightmare, not gritted and lorries sliding about all over the place.? no weather warnings as you say so no grit out?
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Just home from work, came back through the city-centre. Surprisng how much slush there is on the pavements, busy night in A&E tonight if that freezes over. Doesn't feel marginal at all now and another couple of beefy showers would stick for sure and give the miidle of town a Xmasy castor-sugar look. In the balance I feel though ... from the radar and from looking out of the window, theres more stuff to come in but not especially heavy. And probably the window of easterly opportunity will close here in 6-12 hours. No reason though why areas N , S and E - and a little bit west - of here shouldn't have a visible covering by morning ... a few mm's .. or a centimetre or two at best.
You got that one wrong Heather !
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Same here, its stopped. Its still very marginal at street level, basically wet and raw. I expect its probably only sticking in the higher parts of the city ...
Rest of the day though ... depends on ongoing E/NE feed ... continued convection ... drop in dew points/upper air temps. Gut feeling it will amount to little or nothing in town itself over the next 24 hours ... the radar looks pretty patchy. If it had been Jan, Feb or March though we'd have been laughing in this setup. Oh well, lets see what the day brings :-)
Are you getting lots of snow in Leith then??
seems to have ground to a halt here and all but gone on roads/pavements.
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Bit of a dropped catch by Heather the Weather last night. The synoptics were screaming East coast/Central belt impact but she emphasised it as more of a NE Scotland impact.
Wakey wakey hen
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Yes and if Ayr get snow from this front, pretty much anyone will!
Problem is Duncan their website runs several similtaneous contrasting flavours of forecasts for any given area at any one time. The detailed one for Ayr...
http://www.metoffice...st_weather.html
... shows temps of 6c and 5c on Sat and Sun. Go figure as they say ! Think its just part of the Metoffice strategy of covering every base
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Speaking entirely for myself here but I think what my problem is is that I'm probably taking the NW snow risk charts as a definite outcome. I have heard it said before on here that they are only accurate when they are within about 12hrs prediction time. Maybe a case of seeing what I want to see when the true analysis is something different? Hope I am wrong with this but we will see.
When you get right down to it Blitzen, only radar and looking out the window tells us what coming in the immediate time frame.
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Just seen Heather on the beeb there. Bit of a curious forecast. Despite the easterly of the next 24-36 hours, most of the "wintry showers" (yes we're back to that...) are forecast for NE Scotland. Despite the synoptics pointing to the kind of conditions that usually sees them hitting SE/central Scotland and through the central belt corridor.
Then the weekend forecast saying snow moving south and "weakening" and mostly on high ground.
Could all be wrong of course but seemed like a rather watered down (although possibly more realistic !) view of whats going to happen up here in the next few days.
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Im a bit surprise there's nothing out for Sat
Look at the FAX - triple point low over C Scotland - http://www.wzkarten....ics/brack2a.gif
Now look at the uppers/dew points. Easily cold enough you'd think?
http://www.wzkarten....cs/Rmgfs782.gif
http://www.wzkarten....cs/Rmgfs788.gif
If all that came off as shown the central lowlands and borders would get a pasting
Ditto. Would have imagined that would be seen as a significant feature in its own right. Doesn't seem to be viewed in the met-office precipiatation forecast as anything other than a band of snow ... as usual that leaves our interpretation as anything between a dumping or as little as a few flakes seen blowing past a street light. Warm sea, cold uppers/cold surface ... you'd think its a certainty for widespread/decent snow .... and yet if theres a way to avoid a widesperead snow event, Scotland always finds a way
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I know exactly where you're coming from with this post, but stuff it, let's ramp away anyway
If the 12Z is still looking good then I'm off to B&Q to buy some wood to build the biggest ramp in Scotland.I'm with you in spirit CatchMyDrift believe me ! I think though that so many of us have been assailed in the past by "Britain shivers in arctic blast" type headlines ... whilst in reality staring out the window at green grass and damp pavements ... well you know the story ;-)
Always find it bizarre that we live surrounded by oceans and moisture, our mountains and hills are modest in size ... and yet when push comes to shove by the time any snow-bearing winds get scraped over a line north of Stirling/Perth theres nothing left to dump !
Anyway I'm whining now, good luck to anyone anywhere who gets it over the next few days !
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Gotta say I'm a bit of a sceptic on what may unfold over the next few days, only based on the bitter experience of 30+ years of weather watching.
The easterly - such as it will be in Scotland - will be very short lived. Too short lived to take hold and not expecting anything of note from that before the weekend. Once the northerly/nw'erly kicks in, then sure all areas north of Stirling/Perth will probably see something. But usually anything south and east of that is the snow-shadow. I haven't seen anything yet in the forecasts that suggests anything different this time around.
Only attitude to take is , if it happens, it happens. I just have a bad feeling that the gradual ramping of the past week from the charts (and I'm guilty of it myself) will end in disappointment for many.
So..."if it happens, it happens"
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i know how you feel
i think that the general rule for here is that if its an easterly there's a good chance of lots of snow, a northerly very little, a westerly can bring some if its cold enough and a peculiar low that forms over london and moves up here brings disappointment and 'rein fo' scutlaand'
snow started here now
watch out highland snow!!!!!!
Agreed. Thats about the same for here in Embra. Anything else that might look like it has the "potential" ... depressions ... fronts ... leading/edge or back/edge stuff ... thats just a lottery. And about the same odds too.
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Simple guide that works pretty well for me most times in working out whats happening now and over the next 12 hours or so.
Whats happening now... Look at the sky. High cloud, broken cloud ??? Can I see the horizon ?
Whats coming... Look at the radar. Moving in this direction ? Breaking up ? Intensifying ?
On that basis, the current situation is another damp squib for most of us in the central/SE locations.
I would disregard metoffice timing of events. Just because they say this or that will happen "later" doesn't mean to say they know something we don't. Its more likely they just got the timing and the extent of any precipitaton at location X wrong. I guess what I'm saying is there will be no main event later on today IMO.
A "heavy snow" metoffice warning simply carries so many caveats ... "in some areas" ... or "on high ground" that most of the time its an anti-climax for the townies. Surrounded by ocean out there and we end up with snizzle 95% of the time...jeez !As for streamers (and I stand to be corrected) these are areas of convective activity that follows local geography (Moray Firth, Forth estuary, Cheshire Gap, Thames estuary etc). There may well be some showers after the front passes, but I think thats all they would be ... "scattered showers" rather than "streamers".
If the 12Z is still looking good then I'm off to B&Q to buy some wood to build the biggest ramp in Scotland.
Scottish Cold Spell Discussion 2
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Main roads in Leith fine, side roads (where I live anyway) are sheet ice from yesterdsys snow and flast nights freeze.