OldGreggsTundraBoy

It don't know about BBQ summer... it was about what i was expecting for this summer, a typical English summer really. If i remember correctly they said some very wet/ thundery spells were also likely when u really read into it. Overall the met office predictions aren't good because things aren't predictable. I often think some old man just guessing based on recent experiences would be better. RECENT SUMMER EXPIRIENCES = V. MILD+ WET. "The remarkable thing about this summer is that it remained so warmdespite being wet, and that highlights how much our climate is changing— 30 or more years ago, a wet summer would invariably be cool as well." I agree but find that rather worrying, particularly considering low solar activity.

Going quiter- holographic image which seemed to show a farside sunspot is not real.. it's just 'noise'. sunspot 1025 has decayed already, it was a small, simple bxo spot/ speck. could be counting again from zero, u decide weather that's good or bad [it's longgg]# August avg. sunspots has come up on SC24 as 0.0, thankfully they haven't counted that annoying little sunspot that popped up on 31st [the last day] It's hard to know whether this is just a blip of solar activity or the start of maunder/ sporer/ wolf style minimum. They honestly Couldn't have got that more wrong I suppose,... except there still coulld be a big ramp up between 2009 and 2012, you never know- but i doubt it. "The scientists gained additional confidence in the forecast by showingthat the newly developed model could simulate the strength of the pasteight solar cycles with more than 98 percent accuracy." oh dear

be lucky to get colder than 10C due to el nino:nonono: All months so far except JAN have been above average [i'm glad the below average came in winter] http://climaticidechronicles.org/2008/12/31/uk-met-office-predicts-warm-2009-record-temperatures-after-2010/:D This says record breaking heat for 2010, but with very low solar i think not :] by say 2020 we COULD be significantly cooler, especially if it wasn'tfor GW, GW is a bit*h and so is el nino, but atleast thats a cycle withhot and cold - a natural Bit*h.

i thought burning stuff like that would warm things up if ANYTHING suppose it adds to global dimming tho?

lol back to day counting from ZERO i guess??! maybe well get some more activity farside is showing some signs.

hhm looks completely blank to me like a tuned out TV but i doubt im interpreting it right

This sucks 100%. First it had to happen on aug 31 so we won't get a month officially with zero :[ second there i have been checking every morning sc24 and spaceweather but not this morning and missed a rare geomagnetic storm [admittedly not that big tho] This sunspot sucks, it's small ass but will still be counted and we haven't got to break the 52 record I don't like SC 24, and it's the only solarcycle i lived thru really. if we had of got 0 this month nasa would have mved the min. making things more interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%B6rer_Minimum This shows all the minimums of the last millennium, based on carbon 14 tree ring dating or something rather brilliant. It shows Maunder was the most significant. You can see 3 minimums before hand built up to this minimum supposedly from the most active period being the medieval maximum (1200AD) You can also see how minor the Dalton minimum is really just a little turn down almost before modern maimum which practicaly goes off this chart. These ALL correspond with temperatures. However i do think GW is very real and has combined with the modern maximum to give today's terribly Mild winters. global dimming and burning of unclean fuels [literally creating smoke that blocks out the sun] has however counteracted GW somewhat to this day. Burning of fuels cleaner smoke wise but still just as high in greenhouse gasses which is beginning to happen more, Unfortunately will lead to more warming. Despite all this there are suggestions of cooling of 1.5C, more than global warming over the next decade. These are the raw factors and still don't include el nino etc.

Yea definitely 51 Spaceweather just being a little slow stuck on 50, i personally count 51.can't wait for no.1. position [hopefully] it's gunnu be quite a w8.

50 days todAY?.. just keeps on goin:mellow: hope we can make it 2 100 now, given up on solar activity, just hoping we can break some records- ie. 1913.

Don't know about storms, not something i've really been able to familiarize with this summer in the SE BUT the wind right now seems quite extreme for where i live and the rains just started to hammer it down. This just a start of autumn typical depression im on the edge of?:o

Sunspots and coronal holes have NO significant correlation as far as i am aware. The recent complete lack of sunspots could continue or could end with a return to previous activity, we will just ave 2w8 nsee. There can actually be quite a lot of the holes in minimum years. 48 days now on my count.

In straight forward language, the more sunspots, the better the radiopropagation, solar flux and more chance of solar flares which causeaurora - the aurora can have a good (or sometimes poor) affect on radiocomms too. Does this mean analogue radio signals will have to go as they become too scrappy/ stop working without solar activity??!

YEP! saw that shortly after came out but i had doubts, they were far too quick deciding things were picking up, they sure got that wrong! one more week and we will have broken the [suspicious] 52 day record for this solar cycle according to spaceweather. about half way to breaking the record of 92 spotless dating back to 1849.

43 days now according to spaceweather, or 42. Some interesting new information on spaceather showing decline in sunspot magnetic fields from 1992, with some reference to maunder minimum, and link to article. Hope we break 92 days, i think we'd the sun would have to break this to be of significant and immediate newsworthy attention.

To put things simply, I recon if it were for global warming alone and it's effects it would all melt horribly by 2020 continuing the 2007 trend, the polar bears would die out etc and it would be a great shame. Luckily i don't think this will happen now as the sun just happens to becoming to it's rescue into a period of modest cooling which will counteract global warming. For until it comes back with a vengeance, but probably not for about 50 years [the sun does it's own thing but i will still predict]. That being said some region may warm and others cool, lets just hope arctic ice is in the cooling region.

42 days spotless, according to spaceweather, solarcycle24 still on 41 because it's America based i believe. Thought i should add the period between cycles 10-15 [dalton minimum?] averaged 800 spotless days per solar cycle, we're currently on 694... so still over 100 to go before we'll even average a Dalton min. cycle, i imagine for maunder it would be 1,000s, well solar cycle's looked pretty non existent at that point.

40 days blank, does that put us in the top ten?! but still the record of 92 remains a long way off, i'd be surprised if it broke that as it would be a pretty Sure signal of times to come, i would expect to hit the headlines with something about an ice age-- not to be taken Too seriously [don't forget the deep minimum of 1913 caused no ice age, just a small degree of cooling] but then i imagine few would take it remotely seriously enough. here's to hoping for some good winters in the coming decade.http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Hhm i wish i'd seen the sun before it went weird so i had something real to compare it to! oh and i wanted to see some geomagnetic storms first http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif:lol: the maximum possible scenario would create global cooling of 1.5C by 2020 according to some sites- but i'm pretty sure that doesn't factor in global warming.

This is crazy i give up on ever getting to see the aurora's. I might have to convert to one of the people who actually wants/ supports there to be a rubbish solar cycle. However if this means we get colder winters in future and more snow i am in favor.

Anyone know why the netweather average, which is what go by, always seems to be so much higher both than average and than other sites averages?:wub: It currently stands at 17.54C (+1.34C above average) due to it being rather warm by night as well as day rather than any significant hot spell. Other than the June heat wave and a few exceptional days that generally seems to have been the way this year. Personally hoping for below average temps this winter due to lack of solar activity, but i understand this is just an itsy bitsy factor, and anything else would be hope-casting [my speciality] By netweather i'd say about 17.5C this month.

Does look like clear skies probable this evening. I may try to cycle toLeith hill to get a good view away from City lights. However this is aMISSION of a CYCLE away and will take many hours, although i have beena few times before in the light.. do you think it will be worth it??I've never seen a single 'shooting star' before/... [but then i've never looked] Oh and my only compass doesn't seem to point north so finnding NE is going 2 be tricky business.

A cloudy night, useless for seeing my first shooting stars, tommorow best be clear as forecasts do seem to suggest. I think it would be cool if randomly 1 unpredictable day of summer was winter and eveything froze over just for a day, only to be hot again, pure hopecasting there. current outdoor temp: 17.9C Current room temp : 25.0C:angry: I also think there should be a way of bailing all the hot air out of the house at night, windows and fans don't work good enough, it still stagnates. Either that or A/Con, but air bailing would be more efficient i recon. sorry this sounds the most insane post I ever made.

Terribly hot- top temp 28.0*C in the shade here and humid... :lol: i've only just changed out of my thick black Jeans, i was roasting outside. last night felt worse though for too manny reasons, like dong weights at 11 pm (not te best idea) I think August CET will turn out higher than July, although somewhat cooler night temps may bring it down.

It really has been pretty abysmal waiting for this solar cycle to ramp up for years, just as i was getting interested in auroras and CME's. Things that just aren't going to happen now..after early predictions of above average cycle. If we go into a Dalton or maunder will i ever get to see these things i have never witnessed? Although the obvious answer is no the 1850's Carrington event happened in a lowly cycle. Won't solar minimum and global warming just cancel each other out and things will just continue as 'normal'? Most estimates seem to show there about equal factors against each other right? both progressively getting bigger.