North West Cold Spell 10

[Osbourne One-Nil]

Yawn - snowing here again quite heavily - yawn.

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[AderynCoch]

A sunny and crisp start to the year here. Temperatures tumbling again now.

There's a huge black cloud just to the west of me.

[wysiwyg]

Happy New Year everyone - hope you're all enjoying the weather and the outlook!

[HotCuppa]

whats that its going to rain pretty soon for the region -smug

seriously tho its nowhere near freezing here at the moment..and i seriously doubt it will get to zero...cmon already with this boring rain...

Edited January 1, 2010 by HotCuppa

[Cecil Hogmanay Melchett]

whats that its going to rain pretty soon for the region -smug

Looks very marginal on or near the coast tomorrow should some showers kick off.

Not sure inland should be ok but will any showers penetrate inland,thats the question.

[meerkat63]

Happy New Year everyone - hope you're all enjoying the weather and the outlook!

Happy New Year Wysiwyg and everyone else of course. The outlook looks very promising!

[HotCuppa]

Looks very marginal on or near the coast tomorrow should some showers kick off.

Not sure inland should be ok but will any showers penetrate inland,thats the question.

this winter has been weak...very wet with rain...no different really to the last 20.

[inga]

More snow and freezing temperatures in Horwich. The only good thing to report on this New Year's Day is a sighting of witch hazel blossom on a tree in Astley Park, Chorley which usually obliges with the first sign of spring for those sick and tired of winter, especially with all this involuntary skating on ice and burning up of one's pension in the central heating. One other good thing - the spikey plus thingies are excellent.

[fluffytrollop]

meteox looks hopeful for later on this eve...

[lukemc]

Is it true that our area (Liverpool) is one of the warmest places in the country at the moment, and why is this so? And why did today have a higher maximum than yesterday when we where still under the influence of the low pressure system, surely the cold air should be well embedded now and we have fairly clear skies I would expect temps to plummet yes I know we are near to the coast and this can mean milder temperatures than what can be experienced inland but did we have this problem of marginality etc. in this area in the big cold spells of the past like 1962/63, 1978/79, 1981/82 or even 1995/96? It did not stop us from getting big dumping then did it? So would a situation where we are almost at 4 or 5C and a lot of the country below freezing occur in the past? Be interesting to here what your views our on this?

Luke

[Chris D]

Is it true that our area (Liverpool) is one of the warmest places in the country at the moment, and why is this so? And why did today have a higher maximum than yesterday when we where still under the influence of the low pressure system, surely the cold air should be well embedded now and we have fairly clear skies I would expect temps to plummet yes I know we are near to the coast and this can mean milder temperatures than what can be experienced inland but did we have this problem of marginality etc. in this area in the big cold spells of the past like 1962/63, 1978/79, 1981/82 or even 1995/96? It did not stop us from getting big dumping then did it? So would a situation where we are almost at 4 or 5C and a lot of the country below freezing occur in the past? Be interesting to here what your views our on this?

Luke

I'm not far off where you are (Southport), and I would say that the Irish Sea is highly influential on the temperatures and weather we get due to the warmth. Also it looks like the NNW wind has picked up, which is why the temps are so high. As for the marginality from the big cold spells i have no idea!!

Edited January 1, 2010 by chris93

[Osbourne One-Nil]

I told the kids it would start snowing again at 6.30. It started at 6.24.

They think I'm useless.

[Liam J]

temp falling here surprisingly under quite cloudy skies its -0.8c everything frosty again with ice after todays snow

wonder what tomorrow will bring, looking at the models i think tomorrow is the last slightly less cold day with maxes about 1 to 3c at best, then some days struggle after that for the next week, with 1c the high and any many areas mainly inland looking at highs of -1to -3c and overnight given clear skies and a slack wind -5 to -9 is possible with some areas maybe getting double figure minus temp

will it or wont it...snow tomorrow the synoptics look good -5 to -6 uppers coming down ahead of the trough/low and the 522 dam over the region, 0c isotherm is between 0-100, with surface temps of around -1 to 3c with some areas lower than that, the problem will come as the winds are forecast to swing nnw or even nw which will bring in warmer air to the coastal areas, so i expect the coastal fringes will see a wintry mix with snow in heavy ppn should it occur, and inland areas of course seeing further snowfall.

and tucking in behind the trough the 850 temps drop to -8 to - 10 so depending on the way the trough orginises itself the ppn behind will almost certainly be of snow on the back edge as the winds swing back to the north.

so now we need it to arrive with a punch, and not the weak affairs of today which lost there energy when they hit the mountains.

radar watching tomorrow then!!

all in all a very cold outlook.... <_<

Edited January 1, 2010 by james12

[meerkat63]

Very fine snow falling, adding to the dusting from earlier today.

[shadowfax]

Very fine snow falling, adding to the dusting from earlier today.

Its been snowing here as well for about 10 minutes and everything is covered in a fine layer again topping up the gaps between the thick snow that has not yet melted. Looking at the radar there are clumps of precipitation popping up to the north of us which will hopefully keep coming.

Shadowfax

[Cecil Hogmanay Melchett]

yes we have a dusting of snow here now from a light shower recently.

Nice to see,again!

[cheshire snow]

temp falling here surprisingly under quite cloudy skies its -0.8c everything frosty again with ice after todays snow

wonder what tomorrow will bring, looking at the models i think tomorrow is the last slightly less cold day with maxes about 1 to 3c at best, then some days struggle after that for the next week, with 1c the high and any many areas mainly inland looking at highs of -1to -3c and overnight given clear skies and a slack wind -5 to -9 is possible with some areas maybe getting double figure minus temp

will it or wont it...snow tomorrow the synoptics look good -5 to -6 uppers coming down ahead of the trough/low and the 522 dam over the region, 0c isotherm is between 0-100, with surface temps of around -1 to 3c with some areas lower than that, the problem will come as the winds are forecast to swing nnw or even nw which will bring in warmer air to the coastal areas, so i expect the coastal fringes will see a wintry mix with snow in heavy ppn should it occur, and inland areas of course seeing further snowfall.

and tucking in behind the trough the 850 temps drop to -8 to - 10 so depending on the way the trough orginises itself the ppn behind will almost certainly be of snow on the back edge as the winds swing back to the north.

so now we need it to arrive with a punch, and not the weak affairs of today which lost there energy when they hit the mountains.

radar watching tomorrow then!!

all in all a very cold outlook....

James

After some of the trash i have read today over various threads today

this is a very accurate post and a pleasure to read

C.S

[meerkat63]

Its been snowing here as well for about 10 minutes and everything is covered in a fine layer again topping up the gaps between the thick snow that has not yet melted. Looking at the radar there are clumps of precipitation popping up to the north of us which will hopefully keep coming.

Shadowfax

Just had a look at the radar and seen all those showers further north, over the borders and north-east England - which is what I imagine you are referring to.

Let's hope some of that makes it our way!

[Cecil Hogmanay Melchett]

moderate snow shower here everything covered nicely.

[meerkat63]

moderate snow shower here everything covered nicely.

Yep, it might be intermittent and relatively light but this is the best shower of the day in my opinion. Temperature of at or below freezing - which is what it is here anyway - really helps.

[carl1980]

still got a light dusting of snow in st helens from a shower this afternoon .....ps were can i get live data for st helens?? thanks

[cheshire cat]

Try raintoday.co.uk or the net weather extra ones

metox is also quite good

[carl1980]

Try raintoday.co.uk or the net weather extra ones

metox is also quite good

ok thankyou

[Snowmad79]

been snizzling for a while now but its starting to turn pretty heavy.

EDIT -infact its now a white out and its already added a thin layer to existing snow .

good stuff

bahhhh it aint lasting long thanx to that little dot of ppn over me on the radar lol

Edited January 1, 2010 by Snowmad79

[Mark.C]

Happy new year everyone!

Not been up long lol! can anyone tell me roughly what time the ppn is likely to hit the North West tomorrow?