Forecasting storms the old fashioned way...

[Xihuitl]

Hi all.  This is my first posting, so greetings wherever you are from a blustery Lincolnshire in the UK in the name of Him "upstairs" who set the heavens in motion along with the weather.

 

Observations, statistics and supercomputers might be the norm in weather forecasting, but what happened to the old traditions of observing the planets and making forecasts based on their positions?  There is strong evidence to suggest that the Aztecs observed Saturn and Mercury to determine rainfall for the next month.  Yet, we discard the notion of a planetary connection because it just doesn't sit right with our understanding of physics.  How could a planet as small as Mercury so far away affect our atmosphere?

 

If we tip things on their head, the holy grail of physics is the Unified Field Theory (UFT) which Einstein was working on before he died.  Two planets orbiting the sun relative to a third object and observed on a fourth satisfies the requirement of UFT to connect strong nuclear forces, weak nuclear forces, gravity and magnetism.  Pick two planets, position them relative to the moon and then plot the relationship between the planets and there you should have something that quantifies a unified field in two dimensions without the need for quantum dynamics, string theory and 11-dimensions  (if you want 11 dimensions, there are 9 planets, a sun and a moon in the solar system already...)

 

So, what if Saturn and Mercury happen to be two planets which represent UFT, and coincidentally their positions map  to Earth's atmosphere?

 

Well, I took on the challenge, studied the few remaining manuscripts written by the Aztecs (the rest were burned by the Spanish or purloined by the Catholic Church) and found a pattern in the artwork.  And, as far as I am concerned, where there is a pattern, it can be represented mathematically.

 

The attached images are from today, 17 August 2013.  The maps underneath with the rainfall are from the UK Met Office.  The red squares have been calculated in Excel using the positions of Mercury and Saturn.  As the day went on I "tuned" the calculation.  It seems I can now plot UK rainfall for any day of the year, past or present without the need for observations and supercomputers.

 

 

 According to our experts, plotting UK rainfall for any given date in an Excel spreadsheet is impossible.  Yet I seem to have achieved it.  The second attachment is from my spreadsheet.  It is the great storm of 1987.   You can see by the vertical lines being so close together how tight the isobars were.  I.. don't have any data on the storm, so maybe someone could corroborate it?

 

 

Most will think this completely laughable.  I have difficulty believing it because of what we have been taught and told by "those who know" here in the UK, and the rest of the West for that matter.  Yet, I take some reassurance from my brother-in-law who is from the Middle East.  When I showed him my spreadsheet and just said I was using the "old ways", he said, "You mean the ancient ways like they did in the past long, long before the mid-ages?"  I guess I do.

 

I guess my question is, does anyone have an appetite for this?  If not then I'll just rebury it in the past.  If so, which I think highly unlikely, then what would be the best way to proceed?

 

Many thanks

 

Xi

 

[nitro_deluxe]

Chances of a planet many millions of miles away.. to directly affect storm formation, on Earth today, are less than nil. Sorry. My opinion only.

[Polar Maritime]

Welcome Xihuitle.

 

R.J.S seems to be an expert in this field. Will try and find the link to his work, it's somewhere on here.. 

 

Here we are.. http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/75437-roger-smiths-developing-lrf-model/page-2

Edited August 18, 2013 by Polar Maritime

[Xihuitl]

Chances of a planet many millions of miles away.. to directly affect storm formation, on Earth today, are less than nil. Sorry. My opinion only.

Hi

 

That is exactly my point..  The planets don't influence the weather, but instead they mimic it.  After billions of years since the creation of the Solar System, everything is actually in sync even though we are not able to perceive it.  Mars and Venus, say, going round the sun is no different than Nitrogen and Oxygen molecules moving around the Earth in the atmosphere, or two electrons orbiting a proton+neutron.  They are just on a grander scale.

 

When it comes to the weather, Saturn and Mercury appear to be the keys probably because the ratio of mass between the two planets is a factor of 18 (1800 to be more accurate).  The molar mass of water is 18 g/mol.  The base element would therefore be hydrogen.  Therefore think of Saturn as a water molecule and Mercury as a hydrogen atom.  Then there is the moon whose mass is 1/81 that off Earth's and compared to Saturn it is on a ratio of around 16.  That is the atomic mass of Oxygen.  So there you have it: water and its components all running like clockwork in the heavens.  Our weather is predominantly water-based so why shouldn't it behave like the planets mentioned?  As I said, it's just on a different scale.  Apply a few ratios like Pythag. and some trigonometry and bob's your uncle: a working model of the weather founded in ts very atomic structure

 

Our ancestors worked all this out and used it   Did you know that almost every stone circle in the UK can be used to predict the weather?

 

[ (Just to enter the metaphysical briefly for those who are following and understanding this.... )....But we were regarded as heathens and converted so the knowledge was lost..  Probably thousands of years of observations and fine-tuning of a complex equation were ditched in preference for a man called Jesus and the promise of eternal life, or hell and damnation for those who did not comply.   Fortunately in the 21st century we can reconcile God and science and have both in this instance, given the core of the ancient equation is based in polar space on Î¸ (the angle) λ (the length) M (the mass): Th(e)L(e)M(a) or Thelema, the Greek for "Will" as used in the Lord's prayer ("Thy Will be done"). This is God's Will, or in other words, the Holy Spirit. ]

 

Look closely at this:

 

The dots are a single equation on a given date representing the relative positions of Venus and Mars.  The satellite image is the same date.  See how the dots form "edges" for the clouds.  The pits in the clouds come through clearly.  Where there is a break in the clouds there is a break in the equation.  How amazing is that?  This image is over a month old.  I've be recreating the clouds for the last 30 days and now advanced to rainfall.  So, it is not a fluke.  Incidentally I am plotting over 9,000 points each time: the probability of getting it right with 9,000 points over 30 days is too small to comprehend if we believe the experts.

 

Sorry it's been so long.  But I just wanted to make things a little clearer.  I hope I did.

 

Xi

[Xihuitl]

Welcome Xihuitle.

 

R.J.S seems to be an expert in this field. Will try and find the link to his work, it's somewhere on here.. 

 

Here we are.. http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/75437-roger-smiths-developing-lrf-model/page-2

Hi there Polar Maritime

 

Thanks for the welcome and the link.  Roger is thorough, I have to say!  I'm not sure what to make of his observations as I have taken a very different path to reach my conclusions.  He also doesn't predict anything/use contemporary data which makes it hard to gauge whether following in depth his research has any merit.  He is also using the wrong planet, I think, and should be working with planetary pairs according to the ancients.  That said, his charts are interesting and I shall be looking at them in much closer detail as I move onto to temperature forecasting.

[Methuselah]

Welcome to NW Xihuitl... 

 

 

Tbh, I can't see any connection, of any kind, between far-off celestial bodies and terrestrial weather patterns...

[Polar Maritime]

Hi there Polar Maritime

 

Thanks for the welcome and the link.  Roger is thorough, I have to say!  I'm not sure what to make of his observations as I have taken a very different path to reach my conclusions.  He also doesn't predict anything/use contemporary data which makes it hard to gauge whether following in depth his research has any merit.  He is also using the wrong planet, I think, and should be working with planetary pairs according to the ancients.  That said, his charts are interesting and I shall be looking at them in much closer detail as I move onto to temperature forecasting.

 

Thanks Xi,

 

Could you post evidence that the Aztecs observed Saturn and Mercury to determine rainfall for the following month. 

Edited August 18, 2013 by Polar Maritime

[Methuselah]

Thanks Xi,

 

Could you post evidence that the Aztecs observed Saturn and Mercury to determine rainfall for the following month. 

My guess would be that they very likely did (didn't druids perform similar 'duties' here?)...Wouldn't both Aztecs and druids be quite correct, in thinking that certain configurations of celestial bodies come before certain weather types...even though there's no causal link between them? 

[Styx]

So humans don't have an impact on global or even regional weather patterns, because the cosmos determines it all?

Hasn't it been shown that deforestation, and urban development, alters regional weather patterns...and what about the big one, anthropogenic global warming?

 

I like the concept of the Gaia principle being applied on a galactic scale - but surely there is evidence to suggest that the human race has the ability to alter the 'natural order', in terms of climate?  

Edited August 19, 2013 by Styx