IanR

Epic downpour in this part of Wigan just before 4 , apart from a couple of deep rumbles as the storm approached it was mostly high level thunder, saw no visible flashes, the rain was something else though with flash flooding on the main roads, looks like a few houses might be damaged with floodwater

The good old days, even the North West got plenty of storms, Notice how Bill Gyles says tommorrow will be much fresher, although the temps are still around 24c , we would kill for those 'much fresher temps ' thesedays

I am not bothereed what the stats say From a local point of view it feels more benign here,milder in winter and cooler in summers.There has been less snow over the last decade, also as we get our most intense weather during the relativly short time in thunderstorm there are fewer now and less severe, Seems we just get more wet and breezy weather on the whole.

more chance of wee willie winky knocking on my window and waking me up than a thunder storm nowdays , though its happened years ago

Cant still believe I have to wear full length gloves for cycling in June, they are normaly put away in April and only see the light of day again in early October, But this year its been every time I go out on the bike and this has been going on for two months apart from that week in May otherwise it feels like frostbite in your hands, I am sure other cyclist will agree(bottsford) . The summers are getting cooler , I have been around 40 years and have seen a few, the last 5 seem the coolest i can remember , this year is even worse, and to rub it in the global warmists will rub facts in your face such as ' 2011 was the second warmest on record in the uk' so what? not the summer

I wonder if Wigan will get thunder again today, of course not because I am here today

ANNOYED.Just learned from my dad that there was thunder and lighnting in Wigan today, but typicaly I was in work at ST Helens where there was just a poxy shower and heard nothing , This happened a few times last year ,nothing in St helens but some poxy showers overhead then becoming thundery as they pass my house in Hindley GRRR.... and it uses up Wigans qota of storm days while I am not here,,,GRRR again !

Missing holidays abroad for the last 7 years has not really bothered me,until now, I want to feel some proper warmth now and see some storms, not going to happen here, I too feel the summers are getting more mundane here, very cool, mostly overcast and thunder is rarer than flying pigs I remember warmists saying in the early 90's that in a decade or two , the UK. especially in the south, would experience almost medditeranean like weather on a regular basis....err hello two decades later I am waiting, what rubbish.

Dull, dry, overcast uniform grey status, max 14c , the rest of the week looks similar , very very small risk of of heavy downpour between now and the weekend but unlikley, thunder absoloutly no chance, This is as boring as gets, and it set to go for many days .

Sorry, I meant HAARP which is something I have only recently heard about , been reading up various articles on this subject , but there doesn't seem any proof it affect the weather in any way.

I wonder if some secret experimental stuff is going on like cloud seeding or spraying sun reflecting particles (aluminium sulphate?) in the atmosphere , I have heard China and Russia are up to such tricks, and what about HAAR, could this be an explaination I wonder

its because you are the north west of england, one of the most boring weather regions for storms, I bet your not in the dry slot when persistant drizzle is forcast , just like here

Moan alert again! something else that used to bug me, when storms sometimes develop on the Irish mainland and move east to the Irish sea ,as soon as they touch the Irish sea its like an instant death, fizzling to almost nothing, and no chance of making the coast of the North West , this is almost every time But, this does not happen as often when storms develop across mainland England then travel east to the North Sea, somtimes they even pep up as they head out into the North sea and travel maybee up to 100 miles before fizzling, Why?

I dont mind you moaning, I feel the same, although I am not quite in the no storms club yet, i might be getting a membership soon the way this year is panning out. Last year and the year before we had a few moderate storms, there where 3 days of consecutive thunder in wigan but I missed 2 of them due to being in work in St Helens, the storms developed over me but only became electrical as they went over Wigan and Bolton, one produced a tornado which touched down in Westhoughton . I think that used up the qota of thunder days in Wigan. Then one evening a few weeks later I witnessed a good distant lightning show over merseyside way, the whole cumolonimbus structure was lighting up with the fairly frequent lightning. That was good to watch from my back window with a glass of red

Dont expect any thundery stuff over here tommorrow, the North West shield is very active this year , more so than I have ever known, its looks to be an East affair yet again.

Rain and 8c A full 5c colder than Christmas day, I think this is the coldest June day I have ever known here

bbc weather just mentioned 'maybe even some thunderstorms tommorrow' ..only for you know where

No, the UK

The GW zealots told us a decade or 2 ago that storms would be more common and be more intense, the opposite is happening

I am on the bolton side of wigan and there is no electrcal activity in it , just heavy rain, it looked so promising as it approached , very dark, and greenish with defined rain curtains on the edges . I was convinced I would here thunder , but when it starts to rain first I always knew it was not going to be, From experience thunder usually is heard before the rain,if it is electified

That cell is over me right now very torrential rain going on, but you guessed no T&L We are not the south east so thats probably why , Infact I have seen storms with frequent thunder and less heavy rain than this, what does it take here thesedays, I give up, the rain was interesting anyway

watching that 1992 forcast has made me realise why storms have decreased, its the BBC ! ever sice they took those yellow zigzag lightning symbols away and replaced them with just blue splodges, thats all we end up getting, just spoldges of patchy rain instead of thunder and lightning. BRING BACK THE OLD GRAPHICS BBC

I am not an expert at meteorology, obviously, but I think there is something more to it than than just NAO as to why there are less storms Maybe more sunspot activity and solar storms increase thunderstorms, maybe the increased CO2 (heaver air, less bouyancy) has a negative effect and is decreasing storms, then again maybe not. we will just have to live with less storms or move to some country that has many more.

LOL true, but so gutted I missed this, it not everday a tornado touches down in your vicinity especially in these storm starved times, you can see good roation on the upper clouds, A supercell in Wigan and Leigh, hard to believe

Its strange but there obviously must be an explanation Anyway if we are not going to get storms tommorrow I have been watching them on u tube, This one is a tornado that touched down about a mile from my house last year and I was at work and missed it, DAMN, as this part of the sky is visible from where i am sat right now DAMN again However I did hear the thunder from this storm though, The tornado did the usuall british thing of tossing garden trampolines over the road and ripping tiles off roofs . Not my clip BTW and the music is annoying .......