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Yes. I wonder why a decent breakdown hardly ever occurs anymore. Is it just simply Iberian heights(seem more pronounced )mean we always get the jet too far north creating a wrong angle of attack for a decent breakdown ?!?!

Totally agree TEITS with the finger pointing but one or two do set themselves up for it constantly banging the epic cold drum. Also, the same can be said of the people who just turn up on the mad thread to snipe. Anyway,I suppose it's a cold week coming up then a mobile set up that I don't think will last long. I also think the models are overdoing the amount of energy coming at us. The saying "cold,once in, is hard to displace" could be tested. I suppose longer term there can only be upgrades now.

A cold dry week with frosts,apart from the far north and West. I'm knackered after that pointless chase lol. If it can go wrong,it will for us zzzzzzz

Ouch... Not good output for us coldies for extending the upcoming cold snap. NA goes frigid and we pay the consequences as per.... I was prepared to give it time but from the end of the upcoming week it appears it's all over On to the next chase...

At least a few weeks?. Can you back that up with evidence please?.

How's it looking for our region this week?. What's everyone's thoughts?.

It's gone reset mode imo. That fly's against a lot of background signals and in the nearer time it's trending towards UKMO. Don't but into any det runs after around four days imo

Yes,you just know this spell will probably go out like this. Saying that the experts and backgrounds sigs all mention southerly tracking jet and cold outlooks in general. We'll see.

Just hope the next low after mid next week disrupts and keeps us cold.

Would love the little low to the north to come south and interact with the southern low then the low in the Atlantic to slide towards us and disrupt. Imagine that

Updated early today?

Shorter term pain for long term gain on this run,which is what I wanted. I'd rather keep us all in cold than frontal snow for me. I know it'll change but that's a great run for me

Sort of a middle ground solution looks likely then?. ECM picked up on the small high that doesn't let the cold uppers that far south at first. Snow chances for many after then fI looks like losing cold intensity but thats way out and hope we can go on and shuffle(Tamara's) any slivers of heights to our north with a southerly tracking jet and remain in the cold. That's the best we can hope for I guess until any northern blocking appears.

Them beautiful ne ............over Iceland

Well, bed for me. I've been a little concerned over the GFS last few days(mentioned on here), and I Personally can't ignore it despite what others say. Like most say. It's going to turn cold with snow chances and fI on the models do change alot,so that's a positive. Ideally I'd love the full on northerly option to clear the south coast(less likely) to keep us all in the game. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

Gutted UKMO goes from that stunning 144 chart to the 168 Just can't let the GFS go grrrrr. Cmon ECM follow the UKMO then keep Greenland clear 168 onwards. What can go wrong?

Would the GFS not have the better handling of things over North America later in in the run?. If the euros trend this way this evening,it could be telling.

That is not a snow fest. Very misleading. Could go on to be.

We don't want this run to verify or it'll be a few cold days,snow for the favoured few then a look at losing everything that's got us into this position.

Underwhelming mo update for me. Wonder if we're far enough north to hang onto the cold air next week.....

Sounds like they're not expecting anything major from next week's cold spell. Longevity of the cold spell next week doesn't look too clever. Might have to wait until Feb(strat warming) to shuffle the pack again once the nw blocking disappears.

What are the rampers like in the mod thread. The promised land has always stayed around 10 days away. Some of us get told to not stick by the op runs(I get that) then when winter nirvana appears,it's all systems go......

The models are trending pretty much the same over the last 5 days or so in my eyes. Promising nirvana at day 10. No matter how much we all wish for the deep cold,snow,I can't see it coming. Expectations need to be roped in imo,then if the unexpected does happen..........Boom

Yes,it's always at day 10 You can't say that on that thread though,get lynched lol. The main culprits ramping away make me laugh. You could see a few days ago it was getting watered down,which I pointed out with some explanation. I do feel we'll have some decent shots at cold to come though.

One day these are great and next not. I get told these are more reliable. Is this true?.