Haha im the exact same, people do tend to get upset for some reason when people start looking forward to winter - although i notice long range guesswork (which of course is what it is), seems acceptable when people look ahead to summer etc. Ah well. But yeah, ive been just lately checking for long range winter forecasts, and there are a few out there - but always better when it kicks off in here. Of course its speculation, and means nothing, but it is fun times. When generally do "those" threads appear around here?