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Ah right IF, that would make sense. Cheers I'll run a quick comparison between the last few years, hopefully we are at the top or near there.

What does the big red anamoly mean CH? I originally thought it meant that we were down on snow cover this year compared to last? But looking at the images we look to have quite a bit more this year where the red is?

Not sure whether I should post this as I'm not adding anything to the discussion but just would like to say, from a utter novice point of view that it can be incredibly confusing reading this thread! Obviously love reading everyone's input but I keep seeing comments about it getting colder and then comments about no sign of cold in the models so not quite sure what to believe! Are the folk who say they can see signs of cold using data not shown in the charts? A lot of the people who say they can't see cold coming tend to back it up with evidence, (not that I understand it when they do as a novice) but I don't see it happening with folk who predict cold so are they going on more of a hunch? Or is it that the charts out in FI have that much info packed in that some people can see a slight hint of cold? Anyway, I love reading the posts as I'm sure a lot of novices do like me who are all looking for and wanting it to get colder so please don't take this as a dig as it isn't meant that way, just looking to understand a bit more. Thanks

I decided to carry on with it. Main factor being I am off work with kidney stones so have time on my hands! Spent all day up to now and got to 20th October. It is all very up and down but I guess a good thing from this is that once up to date we will be able to use it as a comparison point for each current year? Be handy for next year when it starts again. I'm hoping that when I get to mid November that 2009, 2010 and 2011 are all up at the top. https://forum.netweather.tv/gallery/image/14726-snow-percentage-eurasia-sep-nov-2004-2011-oct20th/

Cheers BFTV, Yup, I freely admit I no zilch about all the factors you mentioned there. I have a feeling that if I want to try and understand it all as much as possible then your comment "simply indicate that it's going to be way more effort than you thought!" might be the deciding factor for me as to whether I should carry on!

I can't make head nor tail of that website...

I'm using this to plot the growth on a year by year basis. I've already spent a fair few hours as it is time consuming but can anyone see a point in me doing this before I carry on? Could it be useful to try and spot any trends??? Could this data then be compared with other data like La Nina, and all the negative or positive NAO or QBQ stuff I see you guys talking about (which I know nothing about) to spot any trends? Within this graph the snowcover north of Siberia and Canada is not included. https://forum.netweather.tv/gallery/image/14725-snow-eurasia-2004-2011/

I'm thinking about embarking on a (big!) task to work out the percentage of snow cover from the years I have available - so from 2004 to now and to plot this data into a graph, I may not do it though as it is a time-consuming task but the reason I ask this is that there may already be something out there that has already done this? Does anyone know of anything of the sort? If I do it, I'm thinking it should it be on a date by date basis say from September 1st to Dec 1st? So as to see if there can be anything gathered from the data before the official start of winter (1st Dec)? Oh and also if I did, should I not include the snow cover in Canada and Greenland etc? I'm thinking just Northern Europe/Siberia etc.

After the dump of snow thought I would see where we stand now in terms of snow cover compared to when I checked on 9th October YEAR PIXELS % 2009 = 35817 - %0.1366 2011 = 34943 - %0.1332 2006 = 32697 - %0.1247 2005 = 32167 - %0.1227 2004 = 32088 - %0.1224 2010 = 31768 - %0.1211 2007 = 29308 - %0.1118 2008 = 28750 - %0.1096 I notice people talking about a correlation between snow cover in Siberia and harsh European Winters overall but when I have worked the total out before and today, there doesn't seem to be any correlation at all?? I wouldn't know where to begin to start looking in terms of data to try and find a correlation. Look how 2010 has slumped in the latest figures.

I've just been looking at a few webcams where I guesstimate the new snow (shown on the first image) to be on there ain't no snow there!

These images like quite different, is the lower one 2 days behind or something? It doesn't show the new snow like the first one...

Thanks Paul and Phil... What the fudge? I refreshed the page a few times earlier to see if it made a difference but didn't, changed nothing on my PC, came back read your replies and viewed it again and it is there! Ah well , technology. Cheers.

Yup, interesting to watch and listen to GP, just a query, in the text above the video player - it also states that the Powerpoint presentation link can be found below the video? I can't see it?? I checked the source code and can see that there appears to be an iframe for the Google Doc embed but it isn't showing on the page for me. Using Firefox 7 if that helps.

Wow! Huge chunk of snow today? Bigger than the whole of the UK? That's what we like