Mark Neal.

No not this season, there was talk of groundsharing with Torquay while there new stadium gets built, but change of plans late summer mean't contiuing at Treyew Road for the forseeable. A 500 mile trip yesterday, we lost 3-2! Narrowly defeated in the end, but can't let yourself go 3-0 down away from home, before staging a comeback. Weather wasn't too bad, some sunshine, then low cloud sweeped back in and drizzle for second half, far from cold though!

So we end the ECM 12z miles apart from the GFS output oncemore. The high perhaps orientated slightly different with the colder easterly flow not effecting us compared to previous, but the high in a more than reasonable position for something pehaps beyond that. Its a promising run and miles apart from the GFS, more akined to the UKMO, however not as amplified.

The voice of sanity and reason Nick! Exactly what i am seeing. its really a good run so far! Pressure is rising to the NE, it wouldn't be exactly mild under the high anyway even further S. By 168hrs.

https://www.wunderground.com/wundermap - Got to model data on the right tab. http://en.vedur.is/weather/forecasts/atlantic/#type=prec https://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Manchester/long.html - This site uses ECM data to derive its forecasts..

& a 1050mb high to our NE... Almost a replica of the ECM at the same stage, which is remarkable at that range!

Albeit a downgrade on the cold snap from the NW/N. The gfs 12z did still show wintry showers into the NW and N into Thurs 12th + Fri 13th, with rain turning to snow even in the South with cold air well in by the early hours of Fri morning, so still some interest. We know how GFS precip charts are like and especially a week out! But despite downgrades on the cold snap and longetivity, there is still a window from Thurs for a good 36hrs and potentially into the weekend before the flow gets cut off and high moves in.

One more reason to look forward to coming down been cold here all week!

Rain this afternoon here, heavy at times. Temp at 4c. Wind 7mph S. Whats the weather like down in the far SW?, I'm off to watch Oxford City away at Truro City tomorrow.

-4.2c the low overnight last night. Then high of 5.8c today in lovely sunshine. Now -1.7c.

Voted on all tours. Great pictures!

Absoutely, and following your updates on the whole thing i have got that impression too. Just wonder if we can get something sustained after days 8-12, looks like a flow of NW/N looks a good bet, how cold will it be?, can we get troughs in flow to give people the S word etc? Thats to be answered, and much closer to the time. Growing cause for optimism.

ECm shows it turning much colder towards end of next week with cold uppers from the NW/N.

Yup already -3.7c

3.7c Ta.

-3.7c. Under clear,starry skies. Wind 2mph N

Yup. FI throws up the low, and mixes with cold air from the North, hence it shows a snowfest for Wales/Midlands and parts of the SW corner and South Midlands.. Lovely to see, albeit one chart in FI from the 18z candy run!

I definitely take what your display name is, thank you very much!

2 seperate systems as far as i am concerned, should be under two different names!

Cant remember if i had a number from previous years or not! But i'm here now anyway. I love the snow as much as you guys do though!

Sleet/Hail and wet snow according to a friend in Bradley Stoke, Bristol.

Cold Northerly to end on the GFS 6Z Control run. I know the two pictures are 12hrs apart, but the much colder air is in the last picture. The 1st picture shows an impressive northerly line.

Same here MP-R! Cloudy, occasional outbreaks of rain, moderate at times. Low cloudbase. Wind 7mph W. A mild 12c though.

Some great snowfall photos from Sweden, just need that to head further east in coming weeks!

Excellent Stuff, Great addition to Meteociel.

Yes quite agree. Does seem that while the mid term looks unfavourable for developing much colder conditions to our doors, that even if a high which looks unfavourable (located over Uk or just by) that then looks to retrograde towards NW/N or even NE occasinaly in weather model output. The impression i am getting is that this scenario which is starting to show from time to time gets colder air to our shores eventually but its a dragged out process. But the main thing, is that it looks like all roads point to a colder and more blocked end to November and proper winter could begin in earnest just after. Its like a jigsaw takes ages to make but only a few puzzle pieces left at the end.. last few days of November could well be very interesting! What fascinating weather model output viewing as Winter hasn't even begun yet!