Cecil Hogmanay Melchett

same here mate it would seem the east of the area(NW)is having most of the snow and the showers must be losing all their endergy in the pennines areas like rochdale and oldham.

Should be a peppering of showers until that main bad pushes up 2nite James. FWIW we could see a good 10cm later if we catch the system.

Getting on for 7cm here which aint bad is it.

lovely james what the radar like this morning by the way?

Just had a 20min snow shower which has deposited another cm or so to the 5 or 6 cm we currently have.

Possibly very heavy snow.

In summery bitter until next tues with temps barely above freezing by day and some pretty low mimima overnight. IMO 18Z is one of the best snowy cold spells of weather since the 80's.

have a look at 18z then you will feel much better by the way although i am NW strictly speaking im more in the middle of the country so thats does make a difference for sure as easterlies do eliver here as i have seen tonight

Moderate snow again here LOVE IT

whats it like there right now?

DD this are will ALWAYS do well in this kind of setup.we are virtually on the pennines and i reckon you and those up saddleworth way could get literally inches and inches of it tomorrow night.Those further west will not see anywhere near the same totals

you might be a tad too north at the moment its the humber streamer kicking in with the showers to your south hitting this area .

To be honest ste this area looks absolutely prime for serious continuous blizzards tomorrow evening but the graphic looked to inc pretty much all the NW of England,obviously the altitude of between 200 and 300m will help but no mention of rain or sleet just frosty skies as the front peters out over cumbria. Wed looks good for scotland wth a big swathe of white covering the country.here looks a brighter day but temps around 2 or 3 with heavy overnight frosts hope you guys like the sound of all that

Sensational forecast by pete gibbs just now,tomorrow night could be absoltely amazing round here with about 7 hours of blizards. the great news is the snow could stick around until sat/sun thats 7days lol

Just while we are on the subject of snow i suspect higher elevations could have 5 foot drifts up saddleworth sholver etc this week. RAMP RAMP RAMP

Interestingly the pennines (which are literally in my back garden if anyone knows lees new road oldham)seem to be pepping up the showers as they cross from huddersfield,they seem to be keeping their intensity but possibly weakening a bit as they head west through manchester. In summery the further east you are is much better.

Evening friends its snowing here in Ashton and everything is nice and white.Pretty decent rash of showers making their way across the pennines and temp of -2.1 here. Moderate snow shower now petering out but plenty more tonight and hopefully a good dumping tomorrow!

:lol: you do know you are infuriating and hilarious at the same time JT-just like the models actually.

Excelent post steve and the strat graph is a real eye opener.The key question is what is driving those cold temps up there since the late 80's.

I have had snow this time but it only lasted two days before the rain came. Am i an imposter on this thread? By the way i know what its like and it aint nice,at least those in the south get nice summers to compensate the nothingness of wintertime.

Great discussion guys will look forward to the second instalment with much interest. Hopefully the lads will go into detail regarding the current setup and the likely evolution

And so is your rudeness.

Summer?What summer we haven't had a summer lol.. And yes the source is from the SW so the air id quite mild really but thats no consolation to those of us who have had nothig but rain so far this year.

Are you being serious ste? Last year,apart from a spell of inversion in Dec was mild mild mild with quite a few places in the country seeing little or zero snowcover.

Damien, It pains me to say it but i agree with a lot of your post. AI comclude that a below average winter cet wise is now almost impossible,what i would say is a 'mini cold spell of severe weather is still possible in either of the 3 main winter months.Sustainable cold lasting weeks is a thing of the past IMO,a 4 or 5 day cold spell is still possible though,and i think when it does come it will come from the east,northerlies just dont produce anymore due to the warmer seas and all the modified crap that comes with it.Easterlies can still produce though as the warmer seas have less of an impact.