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2 minutes ago, E17boy said:
Hi peeps
anyone in the southeast here, any reports of snow falling yet. Me still waiting to see some flakes here in London. Thanks
THere has been just a flurry in Epsom. Had my sister on the phone in Eastbourne very happy whith a proper snowfall
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2 hours ago, Ed Stone said:
You are joking I hope. I wouldn't trust the Met Office to get the date for Christmas right!
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50 minutes ago, Frigid said:
Westerlies giving -10c 850hpa temps. I just know if that came off we would be buried in snow!
Oh yes please
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3 hours ago, DavidS said:
This is the S & PV thread right?
THank you I was beginning to wonder myself!!!!!
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On 13/03/2020 at 22:34, Midlands Ice Age said:
What with one thing and another.. (away at the weekend, car problems, shopping , reading blogs on COVID 19, etc) .
Just realised that I have not updated for about a week.
So here goes from Masie.
Extent has probably reached the maximum a week ago, as since then there has been two massive drops. Volume (and thickness) continue to rise for a while yet.
Gains/losses in extent over the last few days of (-180K), (-50K), (+24K), (+43K), (+20K), (+53K),and today of (-129K) have left the extent -114K Km2 below 15.000KKm2.
Some surprising results there considering that the first massive loss occurred when the DMI temp (see below) was it its lowest for 5 years, and the recent drop has occurred as it levelled off after its sharp rise (whilst the ice regrew!!).
More confirmation of my previous comments that the rise in extent is almost inversely related to the temperature at this time of year. It is probably caused by loss of ice due to wind changes in the perimeter areas, as the weather changes over the Arctic.
Todays loss is mainly in the SOO and Barents.
Severe cyclonic weather is forecast over the Arctic in the next few days, with temperatures remaining below average initially before rising again in a couple of days, but warmer air has already returned to Bering and Chukchi (as per before the Xmas period).
This years refreeze since January shows similarities to the one we saw in 2012, where an early season average extent values dropped off the cliff in August when the Great Arctic Cyclone (GAC) took over. We must hope that the same thing does not happen again this year.
In other news the general Arctic Ocean has been rocked by 4 quite large earthquakes (R4 - 5.5) over the last month. These have occurred whilst a blizzard of smaller earthquakes have been occurring off Iceland, these are being discussed in the Earthquake thread..
These 4 major earthquakes have occurred in the ridge just west of Svalbard, and also a bit further north of Svalbard at the entrance to the Fram Straight. Activity was last recorded about 5 years ago in these areas, and it is obvious that the tectonic plates around the arctic are becoming restless.
The Mosaic project is now being disrupted by other large cracks (leads) that are being caused by the high winds over the pole. They had prepared (piste bashing) a runway for the use of various aircraft, but that has to be now re-developed, as the whole area has been isolated by the openings in the ice . At least they now have some daylight in which to see the dangers.
MIA
What are the chances that therese earthquakes are part of the reason for the big drops in extent. Surely water would amplify the effect and make any earthquake hit the ice harder and force some fracturing and losses on the extremes whilst any fractures near the pole would probably just refreeze in the current temperatures.
Just something that I was wondering.
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THank you for submitting that video. If that comes off it will be brilliant.
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2 minutes ago, northwestsnow said:
As others have said, all a bit of a mess after the northerly with no real dominant pattern at this juncture.
On a brighter note ive posted meteo France winter update in the winter thread and its a sight for coldies eyes!!
Could you please say where you have posted that forecast.
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5 minutes ago, Broadmayne blizzard said:
Never mind Karlos1983. An extended colder spell at the beginning of November is not really what we,re after surely, an extended colder spell in the run up to Xmas or anytime thereafter is far more likely to deliver the goods
I must disagree, I always look forward to a very cold guy fawkes night where you can see your own breath.
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On 16/11/2017 at 17:42, Snipper said:
Not sure if I should plonk this here. Nasa forecast: Which cities will flood as ice melts? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41986163
hopefully there are some experienced views.
What does this have to do with Arctic ice?
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On 02/05/2017 at 19:43, knocker said:
THank you for this :
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On 20/04/2017 at 18:44, reef said:
Continuing on from the discussion in the old thread...
Longer term you have to look at where any recovery might come from. The ENSO forecast suggests yet another moderate or strong El Nino this winter, so we could yet again be looking at a globe warmer than the long-term trend. That's more heat being transferred north when the ice is still suffering from the hit of the last 12 months.
I wonder if this current period will look like another step change downwards similar to around 2007?
Could you please tell me where I can find this ENSO forecast.
Thank you
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I thought that the August storm that is talked about even now crippled what was otherwise going to be a melt season that would have matched the previous couple of years. Plenty of links below
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/arctic-storm.html
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2012/08/a-summer-storm-in-the-arctic/
http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~arctic/presentations/Arctic_storms_Ben_Harvey.pdf
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Wow, fantastic stuff Rectretos. Thank you
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http://www.tos.org/oceanography/archive/26-4_cohen.pdf
Linking of low Arctic ice to rapid snow line advance in Autumn and cold winters....
The 'Warm Arctic , Cold continents' linking.
The fact that 'warming' over the rest of the year continues seems to mean a new 'trend' for the northern hemisphere may be in the offing as the planet warms further?
I remember asking about the impacts of open water Arctic back in the mid 90's esp. the impacts of convection over areas where we did not used to see it and increased R.H. of the air over the basin. Though far faster than we thought it would be we are beginning to see the impacts.
is this a science paper or a periodical especially as it says magazine on the front cover
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Is it to early to call this as just a spectacle ?
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The nutters comment was a bit of a joke and the daily mail is a poor excuse for a paper.I forgot how serious it was in here......I shall stick to reading and keep my mouth shut.
Couldn't agree more. Gave up trying to comment and learn a long time ago.
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Has anyone noticed that the north pole camera has been pushed over. You can clearly see footprints in one picture and the in the next one the camera is over !!
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With large snowstorm to hit the arctic in 4days it should help to preserve the ice
I thought this was meant to break up the ice not protect it !
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I am not sure that the vicious nature of the southern oceans would allow that ever to happen. It might get cold enough but i think it would just constantly be smashed to pieces.
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16.5C for me
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I thought my predictoion was good but it needs to perk up a tad
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Has anyone elso noticed in the first few minutes two clash songs. Should i stay or should i go followed by hitsville uk. He has played games like this before.
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Hi, sorry, I've only just read this . You may well have an answer by this time, but if you haven't then here you are
http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/run/monthly/cfs-1-12-2013.png
You can find the pressure charts etc from meteocil as well which are updated all the time
Brilliant thank you
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17.8 and sunny in Surrey. Washing outside drying and about to cut the grass. It definitely feels like spring has arrived.