quite a decent winter really for me considering fast 2008 even larger teapot warming, ive had 3 lots of lying snow although really only dustings, sun 18th november, tues 8th january and fri 1st february, lots of frosts with a minimum of -6.0C on 17th feb only had 24 maximums in double figures, 2008 even larger teapot i would expect 90, id be amazed if 2008/09 was this decent