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    I think looking at the soundings for QBO- the signs of the Westerly QBO are appearing very clearly in the Strat now and starting to both power up and start the long slide down. Won't affect this winter as highlighted in posts above- but will make 2022 a strengthening WQBO.   

    The failure about 14 months ago seems to have done us a favour going forward......

    Edit- did some digging on QBO and it appears the fabled failure of 2016/2017  and 2019 may, may have happened back in autumn of 1964 with a descending EQBO being cut off (not too dissimilar to 2019 with the WQBO strengthening from surface to Strat. This led to a very long WQBO in the Strat from 1964 to 1967 before descending. 

     

    Interestingly- the next EQBO was 1968-69- and was much shorter as well (as appears to be happening this year)

     

    Osprey et al..pdf (hawaii.edu) has the paper. Interesting stuff.

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  2. 1 hour ago, LetItSnow! said:

    Christmas Eve's of 1991 & 1992

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    Both would have been frosty but I would favour 1992 as it was quite a chilly December and IIRC I've read about how the Christmas period that year was very cold and frosty at the surface, even under a mild high aloft.

    Christmas 1992 was very very foggy with freezing fog being a real issue- loads of accidents on the roads. I remember the Radio 1 traffic bulletin at Breakfast lasted a full 4 mins with all the issues countrywide. Funny how things stick in the memory!

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  3. 21 hours ago, SqueakheartLW said:

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    Looks like the next WQBO is making its move now. Those brown colours are now starting to descend down from 10hpa.

    Shouldn't be any issues for this coming winter but it would seem this EQBO is going to be a shorter than average one by the looks of things unless we see a repeat of the EQBO then WQBO descent we experienced between 1999 and 2001 where it took a long time to get the EQBO down from 10hpa to 100hpa and as a result the following WQBO got delayed too, taking until late 2001 to get down to below 30hpa

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    Funny just looking at the Singapore soundings and I thought exactly the same- just as the E QBO hits the magically 21km and firmly into the Troposphere. It's taken its time but seems to be descending  very quickly now. Early days but it's nailed on EQBO winter this year.

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  4. I have to be honest- but the QBO strengthening continues into the Trop. Back along I was concerned it could have failed but it hasn’t. I’d be surprised if we get a October figure close towards -20 (my gut thinks it’s going to be about -17/-18 but I’d be happier if it delays until after winter. 
     

    Whilst it’s been a quick switch from WQBO the desent has been relatively smooth. 

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  5. 21 minutes ago, Sunny76 said:

    Winter 86/87 had that bitter January spell. What was the state of the country during that period?

    Surprisingly stable. In fact the mid 80's saw a financial growth in the South and this led Mrs Thatcher to hold an election in 1987 which she got a massive majority for her 3rd election win. It was boom time in London with yuppies and the stock market starting to come to the fore.

    Of course different circumstances in mining communities- as this is when the effects of loosing the miners strike in 1985 REALLY hit and there were massive pit closures. It was really a split UK on reflection but living in SW we were pretty much fine.

  6. 2 hrs and I think we’re over the worst. That was a cracking storm, loads of backfilling from SE and the storm caused some amazing lightning ⚡️ even at ground level.

    It’s led to flash flooding across the City and at least 1 school has been hit we think. Took out our PCs - never heard thunder so loud even under cover I was ducking!!! 
     

    Thank goodness the muggyness has gone over. 

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