Tucco
-
Posts
672 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
1
Content Type
Forums
Blogs
Gallery
Events
Learn About Weather and Meteorology
Community guides
Posts posted by Tucco
-
-
Tucco, what hills are you talking about? I'm guessing Cross Fell & Great Dun Fell in the Pennines? Possibly Helvellyn in the Lakes? I'm guessing you're near Penrith? I'd be very interested to know how big and how many patches there are.
Thanks.
Yes Cross Fell/Great Dun Fell. I live in Teesdale and work in Cumbria.
The drift on the western slope of Cross Fell isn't as significant as last year, this could be due to several factors. The November spell was the only heavy snowfall for the Pennines. Typical of North Easterly events, the snow was restricted to the far East of Cumbria.
Rapid thaw around the 10th Dec meant significant snow loss from the November event before the dry very cold spell occurred.
Heavy rainfall in Jan and Feb meant the western slope was exposed unlike last year which was colder but more importantly very dry.
Lack of Easterly winds in Jan/Feb meany any small falls of snow wouldn't have drifted off the summit plateaux to add the western drift
-
The lack of heavy snow over winter and mild Febuary has meant the N Pennines and Lake District have snow patches numbers you expect in mid May.
-
Here the late November snowfalls weren't as severe as winter 2010 and very similar to Feb 2009. Though both these spells were more distributive due to more drifting.
Regarding Jan 1987. The conditions were more severe in terms of snow in eastern Cumbria than any of the above spells. I would swap that spell for any since.
-
Much rather have Dec 2009, than Dec 2010. 09/10 winter was prolonged and snowy esp in term of days lying around here. No travel distribution after the first few days of December this year. What this winter has certainly lacked even in cold spell in Dec has been a wind snow combination. A true blizzard in England and Wales has not occurred for many years.
-
Lol, "only" the coldest month since Feb 86. How long ago was Feb 86? It was the coldest month for the CET since Feb 1986 as well. However, it was the coldest 30 day period for the CET since January/February 1963
How does December 2010 compare to other months of the 20th century, locally? I suspect it will up there.
Just wasn't impressed with Dec 2010, it was an expectional month. But all the action was elsewhere.
This is based on data from near Meto site. Dec temp was - 0.9C. This is well short of Feb 1986 at -2.5C. Dec 1981 -1.5C. Jan 1979, Jan 1963, Feb 1947,Jan 1940 would also have been colder. Perhaps a few other months aswell.
The lack a decent snow depth meant temps weren't particularly low in this area. Last winter had a longer sub zero spell.
-
The bulk of the cold was in the December, it was only in the last week of November the cold kicked in.
Saying it went horribly wrong, is a negative way at looking at it, the more positive spin would be you have lived through the coldest December in over century that no one alive has experienced and you have lived through the coldest 30 day pre Chritsmas spell in at least 300 years.
26th November-27th December 2010 CET: -1.5C
That is pretty exceptional, that is colder than January 1940 (-1.4C) and in calendar month wise, only February 1947 (-1.9C) and January 1963 (-2.1C) have turned out colder since 1900.
Add the fact that it happened early in the season as well.
-----------------------
Perhaps the coldest December in over a century taking the UK as a whole. But more locally in Teesdale only the coldest month since Feb 1986. As others have said after the late November spell the was always a good chance it would be down hill from there.
-
It depends on what you're looking for. January 2011 was colder than most recent Januarys but I can think of a large number of Januarys in the last 20 years that had a much larger number of memorable weather events. There have also been a significant number of Januarys that were rather milder but also snowier across much of the UK, for instance the generally mild January of 2004 had that big snow squall on the 28th.
You've hit the nail on the head. For me December 2010 was of course a cold month but all the weather action took place in other parts of the country. Apart from the first few days the month just past by uneventfully.
Its usually events that stick in peoples memory which define a year or season. For me this 'winter' will actually be the end of November and the snow that does that. Apart from a few wet and windy spells this winter hasn't provided that moment that sticks out in one's mind.
Going by todays models output thats it for this winter in regard for any chance of severe cold and snow. The next few seasons might provide more interest.
-
I just remember April 2010 being very dry. I did two walks that month - one in the Lake District and one in the Peak District. On both occasions the ground was baked hard and we saw not one drop of rain. We had plenty of sunshine too (enough to get a pink face!) hence my thinking that it was a 'good' month in so far it was a very usable month for the outdoors.
Last spring was dry and very sunny here and great for been outdoors. As others have said a decent sunny dry summer would be great after the last 4 years.
-
Yep - crap isn't it.
Winter here in the North West has been VERY poor in terms of snow. One of the poorest on record if you ask me.
We need some more before it's too late.
I thought the Southern part to the NW had several heavy falls of snow in the mid December cold spell?
I agree for a geneally cool winter, snowfall hasn't been great for England and Wales.
-
If you had told me that we were to have the coldest month in Teesdale since 1986 in this area prior to the winter I would have been excited. December after the very rapid thaw around 9 Dec was cold sunny and benign here. We missed out on any significant snow. Apart from the brief wet and wind spells in Jan and early this month its been settled and a very sunny winter.
No skiing at Weardale since Dec 8th and only a couple of days at Yad Moss in over 2 months now. Great late November but winter can summed up in the strange fact I've enjoyed the wet and windy spells the most.
-
You think they would have learned from the poor forecast last Thursday. On the overhead gantries on the M6 they warnings of high winds on Friday. Meanwhile 7/8 HGV's had blown over in Cumbria.
-
Flash warning issued on ukweather world http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/Pages/Weather-Warnings.aspx
models underestimated this feauture.
Temp here 8.2c
Wind SW 38mph gusting 55-60mph
Crosby 53mph mean gust 76mph @ 10am
any reports of damage round there, stay safe guys
i mentioned this could be an event last night.
Why not a warning instead an advisory? At times the Meto appear very slow to react.
-
The downpipe on the gutter has been blown off and the pebble dash on the wall is falling off, meto have no warnings for severe gales for NW England... im not surprised
I could see severe gales happening today watching the wind/gust charts but pherhaps not quie so severe as they have been. Moved away from the chimney as the howling is making me feel nervous
Cock up from Meto again. HGV's blown over on M6 plus A66 closed prob blow over.
-
Blizzard conditions. Its many years since lowland UK experienced a blizzard
http://www.wgntv.com/weather/wgntv-major-winter-storm-heads-to-chicago-jan31,0,6522939.story
-
Mostly calm settled month apart from the wet spell mid month. Temperature and rainfall slightly above average.
Another sunny benign winter month.
Mean temp 2.0C (est + 0.2C)
Mean max 4.2C
Mean min -0.3C
Highest Max 9.4C
Lowest Min -6.7C
Rainfall 132.4mm
Wettest 24hrs 55.6mm
Max wind speed 46mph
Lowest wind chill -10.9C
-
38 miles away, probably as little as 30 miles east as the crow flies, we had 1mm yesterday.
Closer to you still, here we had 79mm from that system over 36 hours. Monthly total now 126.4mm.
-
Well just after Meto updated its weather warning the rain died down retreating back up to Scotland. Only in the last few hours has heavy rain started again.
River levels on the way down.
Still, impressive rainfall in parts of Cumbria esp SE.
-
The Lake District dome effect has kicked in the last 30 mins. Very heavy rain central lakes.
-
Yes i have noticed this the caldew and the pettirl don't seem as high, i suppose the eden can only take so much though before it pushes back?
Carlisle will be fine. Its a none event for N Cumbria.
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/riverlevels/120711.aspx?stationId=5081
Look how low the Eamont is near Penrith
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/riverlevels/120711.aspx?stationId=5046
-
I aint i was gonna drive down and see, however i had abit of a drinking session so not sure. Still the roads are like rivers, if you do go by any rivers mate let me know.
Tuc do you really think there will be more rain than 2005.
For the Upper Eden/Lune catchments yes. This doesn't mean the Eden by the time it reached Carlisle will rise as high because the Eamont and Pettril etc haven't been as effected as bad unlike 2005.
-
also adding a further 6+ hours for all the rain on the hills to come down that adds to a furthur 18 hours to rivers reach there peak, do you know the height of carlisles rivers havent seen them today and want to know what theyre like?
River levels in catchement of the Eden.
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/riverlevels/120711.aspx
I would imagine rain gauge at Moorland Cottage about 10 miles of K/S will have easily exceed totals for 2005 event by now.
It looks like the Lune/Eden will be worse effected.
-
Dreadful day in the Upper Eden valley. Kirkby Stephen AWS is up to 111mm. There's a good chance that this event will exceed even 2005 for rainfall event in the Upper Eden area.
Here in Teesdale 49.8mm so far today, here there isnt even a weather advisory. Meto are a shameful at times, lack of geographical knowledge
-
The fuss is it is pounding Cumbria mate, the rain is really heavy here at the moment but does ease of at times.
Yes very wet in parts of Cumbria. 66mm so far in Kirkby Stephen. It will be much higher across higher ground. Appleby looks certain to flood soon. Heavy rain across Howgills and Pennines unlike 2009. This will be a much bigger test for Carlisle's flood defences than 2009 which didn't really effect the Eden Valley.
-
Well the next 24-48 hours will be nail biting for some here in cumbria, especially those who are prone to flooding. I just hope that the worse is not reality as the community would be devesated again should there be anything like Nov 09, even half as bad as that would still be to much. A conveyor belt of rain being fed along the front which strecthes out into the atlantic.
Accopmanied by gales with gusts possible over 60mph, western ireland is now being battered with gales with wind speeds exceeding the progged values already, looking at xc wind map. A rough time ahead.
Stay safe, and dont take any chances, listen to the local radio/environment agancy.
Rainfall distribution looks more like a lesser version of Jan 2005, not Nov 2009. The whole of Cumbria looks to be effected this time,
It's Quite Wet
in Spring Weather Discussion
Posted
Looks another wet night. SW winds often appear to very gusty in the lee of the Howgills/Ashfell in the K/S area perhaps some lee wave influence.
39.2mm so far here this month, 410mm for year so far. 5mm in Bishop Auckland in April to date.