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Of course the Central parts of the Lakes will see the highest totals. But my point was in regard to rainfall distribution, not totals. 2009 was a Lakes focused event. This time I would expect a more widespread event, to include the Howgill and Pennine rivers catchments aswell.
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BBC said there not sure how long the rain will sit over us, could be 24 could be nearly 36 hours.
Looking at the Faxs I would expect the rainfall event to follow a pattern more of 2005 than 2009. In the 2009 event the extreme rainfall was focused on the central lakes. In 2005 event ranfall as widespread across the whole of Cumbria.
Intial prolonged orograpic rainfall for Central Lakes dome.
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Widespread heavy rainfall
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Just going by the faxs I would say flooding more of issue in Eden Valley due higher rainfall totals Upper Eden/Shap Fell. Heaviest rainfall for Eden valley was the day prior to flood event focused on Borrowdale.
Still I wouldn't expect the River Eden to reach 2005 levels.
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Amazing video's from Denmark. Especially considering thats its low level.
Its many years since the UK had widespread heavy snow combined with strong winds.
Blizzards are so rare in the UK.
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Forest in Teesdale, 83in is record for inhabited location in the UK.
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Great Dun Fell is an official meto station. It's probably the single most studied site on the network over the last 30 years. Data from the site is used by several universities in various atomspheric studies.
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Overnight low of -1.5C
Currently 5.9C
Wind increasing cloudy blustery shrs
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Great Dun Fell 102mph
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Low -1.1C in fresh gusty Northerly wind. Notable wind chill for October, gusts 20/30mph
Max 7.1
Low -1.1C
Currently -0.8C
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Are you not creating problems for yourself here? Blizzard-like conditions could be construed by some as a ground blizzard. No snow actually falling.Or indeed this is exactly what you mean.
Not a fan of the term blizzard like conditions, its either a blizzard or not. Have to agree with TM most overused term on this group as for use of the term whiteout
Mark
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Great account TM. This was one of the events of the 20th century.
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I've never been prouder to be a Durham Citizen
Now to google search 'Nenethead'...
Search Nenthead instead. Typo from me :o
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Yes that is true. However Leeds is perfectly placed to be affected by nearly every type of wind direction, you can't say the same for Scottish cities or even Sheffield. How far north Leeds is plays a surprising factor, where-as on many occasions south Yorkshire has seen rain/sleet while in Leeds center it's snowing.Â
Pretty sure we had this conversion a year or so ago. I believe results (rough agreed!) were as following.
Snowiest
England City Durham
England Town Alston
England Village Nenethead.
Scotland City Aberdeen
Scotland Town Aviemore
Scotland Village Tomintoul
Not sure about NI and Wales. I do remember people going on and on about what makes a city
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First offical frosts outside Scotland at Great Dun Fell and Woodford.
You would expect a frost hollow such as Woodford etc to record an air frost around this time of year under calm conditions but its the only time I can recall GDF been the first. Just shows how cool this air is.
GDF was down to -0.4C with wind gusting 34mph at 0500.
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Strong gusty wind recent shrs
Temp falling still 6.4C
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Righto. So, you'll probably get 2c again? I heard that at 1013mb, the temperature drops 0.65c every 100m. So on average, your temperatures should be roughly 2c below mine...
0.65C per 100m is the average lapse rate but there are other factors at play when comparing our locations. On average is probably closer to 2.5/3C difference. The difference between min temps will be closer due my hill side location preventing low minima. Much higher rainfall/cloud/wind, resulting in lower maxima will be the greatest difference.
My new grass thermometer is already reading just 5.2C, so could manage a ground frost here tonight.
Air temp down to 6.7C here. Should reach similar temp to last night but much lighter wind means should achieve ground frost.
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A day on a par with February 15th 1979, cold and dry,cloudy and windless with an increasing easterly wind bringing light snow showers at first which gradually increase to heavy powdery snow with considerable drifting-chaos by the next morning with most roads blocked.
I was going to highlight that spell as well. Snow with high winds is a beautiful combination.
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Not from someone who kills dolls :unsure:
So, Tucco, where dy'a think i'll get down to tonight?
Perhaps similar to last night. Milder/cloudier air is moving in overnight. Perhaps 4/5C before rising a couple of degrees before dawn.
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4.6C with no ground frost here
Tonight and tomorrow morning look better though!
Looks like increasing cloud tonight should mean temps will begin to rise past midnight.
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Dropped to 1.3C here, which has left the car icy, but the grass isn't. I'd have thought we'd get a ground frost from that. Perhaps we did, but since my expensive grass thermometer has been "reconfigured" by my daughter, I'll never know.
No signs of ground frost here with low of 2.6C but that will be to the wind.
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Low 2.6C mod breeze preventing further fall.
Currently 3.8C
Mark
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Light shrs this afternoon odd heavier one gusty wind 50/60mph.
Temp 9.8C
Max 13.8C
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just been on the net to look up the january 87 snow event and came across this. amazing is all i can say. this link looks like something you would get from america. http://212.58.50.37/...rticle_id=56417
the last couple of years are the coldest winters i have experienced, while the snow was the best i have experienced, im still waiting for snow like 87, and from before then. i dont get how the winter like last year was so cold for many decades, yet we didnt get drifts of up to 10 feet etc. i know many high ground parts did well with drifts, but nothing notable here at least. although saying that there was little atlantic to blow the snow around, but yet looking at the 13th jan 1987, there was hardly any tightly packed isobars and compare it to something like 5th january 2010 the isobars were not tight yet 1987 managed to produce such massive drifts.
Blizzards/Heavy snow with severe drifting was lacking last winter in England and Wales. Highest wind speed Ive found for the wintry spell in Jan 1987 was 73mph at Warcop Range in Cumbria.
Mark
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Redesdale Camp was down to 0.6c at 0700. Good chance it fell below freezing overnight at some point.
Shame the station isn't located in the valley bottom but on a small ridge above it.
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August 1986 figures really put this month into perspective. Mean for here will be around 12.5c this month. But with mean max over 16c its been pleasent, but mean maxs of 13c in a wet month that must dire for a summer month. Well for everyone apart from TM.
North West England - Slightly Less Cold Spell Discussion Part 21
in Spring Weather Discussion
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As with all events only proof is afterwards.
I would stick to fax's and meto invent at this stage though.