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As with all events only proof is afterwards. I would stick to fax's and meto invent at this stage though.

Of course the Central parts of the Lakes will see the highest totals. But my point was in regard to rainfall distribution, not totals. 2009 was a Lakes focused event. This time I would expect a more widespread event, to include the Howgill and Pennine rivers catchments aswell.

Looking at the Faxs I would expect the rainfall event to follow a pattern more of 2005 than 2009. In the 2009 event the extreme rainfall was focused on the central lakes. In 2005 event ranfall as widespread across the whole of Cumbria. Intial prolonged orograpic rainfall for Central Lakes dome. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack1.gif Widespread heavy rainfall http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack1a.gif http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack2.gif Just going by the faxs I would say flooding more of issue in Eden Valley due higher rainfall totals Upper Eden/Shap Fell. Heaviest rainfall for Eden valley was the day prior to flood event focused on Borrowdale. Still I wouldn't expect the River Eden to reach 2005 levels.

Amazing video's from Denmark. Especially considering thats its low level. Its many years since the UK had widespread heavy snow combined with strong winds. Blizzards are so rare in the UK.

Forest in Teesdale, 83in is record for inhabited location in the UK.

Great Dun Fell is an official meto station. It's probably the single most studied site on the network over the last 30 years. Data from the site is used by several universities in various atomspheric studies.

Overnight low of -1.5C Currently 5.9C Wind increasing cloudy blustery shrs

Great Dun Fell 102mph

Low -1.1C in fresh gusty Northerly wind. Notable wind chill for October, gusts 20/30mph Max 7.1 Low -1.1C Currently -0.8C

Not a fan of the term blizzard like conditions, its either a blizzard or not. Have to agree with TM most overused term on this group as for use of the term whiteout Mark

Great account TM. This was one of the events of the 20th century.

Search Nenthead instead. Typo from me :o

Pretty sure we had this conversion a year or so ago. I believe results (rough agreed!) were as following. Snowiest England City Durham England Town Alston England Village Nenethead. Scotland City Aberdeen Scotland Town Aviemore Scotland Village Tomintoul Not sure about NI and Wales. I do remember people going on and on about what makes a city

First offical frosts outside Scotland at Great Dun Fell and Woodford. You would expect a frost hollow such as Woodford etc to record an air frost around this time of year under calm conditions but its the only time I can recall GDF been the first. Just shows how cool this air is. GDF was down to -0.4C with wind gusting 34mph at 0500.

Strong gusty wind recent shrs Temp falling still 6.4C

0.65C per 100m is the average lapse rate but there are other factors at play when comparing our locations. On average is probably closer to 2.5/3C difference. The difference between min temps will be closer due my hill side location preventing low minima. Much higher rainfall/cloud/wind, resulting in lower maxima will be the greatest difference. Air temp down to 6.7C here. Should reach similar temp to last night but much lighter wind means should achieve ground frost.

I was going to highlight that spell as well. Snow with high winds is a beautiful combination.

Perhaps similar to last night. Milder/cloudier air is moving in overnight. Perhaps 4/5C before rising a couple of degrees before dawn.

Looks like increasing cloud tonight should mean temps will begin to rise past midnight.

No signs of ground frost here with low of 2.6C but that will be to the wind.

Low 2.6C mod breeze preventing further fall. Currently 3.8C Mark

Light shrs this afternoon odd heavier one gusty wind 50/60mph. Temp 9.8C Max 13.8C

Blizzards/Heavy snow with severe drifting was lacking last winter in England and Wales. Highest wind speed Ive found for the wintry spell in Jan 1987 was 73mph at Warcop Range in Cumbria. Mark

Redesdale Camp was down to 0.6c at 0700. Good chance it fell below freezing overnight at some point. Shame the station isn't located in the valley bottom but on a small ridge above it.

August 1986 figures really put this month into perspective. Mean for here will be around 12.5c this month. But with mean max over 16c its been pleasent, but mean maxs of 13c in a wet month that must dire for a summer month. Well for everyone apart from TM.