why are people so pessimistic? TOTAL amateur on weather matters here, but over the few years I've lurked on here, I've seen LOADS of times when everyone gets all excited on here, only for the low to dive into France and give them the goods at the last moment. IF, and I know it's only an IF at the moment, this low dives(maybe ''dives'' is the wrong word?) south as well, as it could well do based on past incidences, then yes, we in the south will get a battering, but the LONGER term prospects will improve for all of us, won't they? or am I reading the situation wrong? personally, I'm expecting it to take a more southerly track, based on gut instinct, nothing more. sorry if I'm posting this on the wrong thread BTW, I know you mods are hot on that! :blush: :blush: