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That looks absolutely beautiful. With a heavy heart i will sacrifice Dec for that.

Stop it Blue your getting me excited lol...

And it looks ruddy awful;.

The flow isnt off the Atlantic ?

Im afriad it will be.

This thread is great... Personally i think its set up perfectly as it is Phil.. People can always visit this thread for a less emotional over view.

Thats not sounding very good for December..

Is he talking broadscale (UK) or regionally ..im not sure ...but good point Don.

I dont .. not when hes saying those kind of things!!

Your input is an absolute joy Blue.. I have wanted to say that for a while. Thankyou ..

Me too matey.. I do hope, for all the optimism , we don't end up with a horrible wet stormy December.. As it stands im fearing for the next few weeks if i'm honest, maybe a few days next week under the influence of the high then back to Atlantic dross? Maybe the models will flip back to showing the block having more influence, hope so..:-)

Dont be saying things like that Blue, im just about to go to work (in the rain, again), so already feeling a bit fed up!! Hoping EC is a good run!!

TBH looking at all the data to hand i'm not actually sure we can call whats evolving a scandy high- to me its an extended azores high... By the time it settles, or attempts to settle over scandy the jet is already shoving it east..

OMG i was just going to post that chart lol. GFS regains the signal for strat warmings, all the way through the run there are mini warmings going on and then at the end, thats toasty

Typically along some another low trying flatten it all out..

Perhaps signs that the Atlantic is slowing down at 288..

Perhaps,they are a real pain tho, you can see at day 9 the scandy high has retreated, if we didnt have that little fellow in the western Atlantic then the azores high could pull back int the Atlantic..

Scandy high putting up a real battle on 12z.. We could do with some brakes being applied on these lows coming out of the States tho, they are relentless.

GFS looks a bit better at 138 hrs.. Scandy high really trying to disrupt..

Yes, although i wasn't impressed with the UKMO 00z or GFS 00Z and the GEFS 00z are pretty awful , so my reaction to EC was probably a accumulation of those others as well.. I'm not suggesting the EC mean is the holy grail but looking at it, there must still be quite a few members showing Atlantic disruption.. Bed time for me after night shift, i'm kinda still hoping for a switch back to say, the EC det yesterday, although i'm still fearful of another deluge later next week.. I know its only the 6th of Dec but so far ive had 1 dry day and 5 wet ones, add the next 3 or 4 days of wind and rain and that will 9 wet days and 1 dry, thats 2014 kinda stats ..

Good post Ray, from my perspective i think this wind and rain is getting me down a bit so feel a bit jumpy i suppose.. Ive just posted about the EC mean and i have a feeling the det will be very progressive, lets see..

Hold the press, EC mean is better than i thought it would be, perhaps we have a progressive EC det this morning?

I don't think it is loaded with potential MS.. Probably academic at day 10 but the azores high looks like its ready to ridge into Europe to me..

There wont be any here either ..

Me too Shaky.. A lot of talk about how the models underestimate blocks, from where im sitting they have underestimated our perennial nemesis, the Atlantic yet again. Maybe Carol Kirkwood is looking at last nights EC because i can see precious little in the way of snow next week on any of the NWP this morning. 3 perhaps 4 days of colder dry weather..(And the way Dec is shaping up thats about as good as its going to get for a while as its back to wind and rain soonafter)..