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The Express will have linked the storm to Planet X and a mega tsunami before the night is out.

In fairness Surrey and Berkshire as well. Essex less so.

Amazing stuff, strange it's getting so little coverage in the media? I guess if it's not affecting London....

It was definitely my favourite season when younger I'm not so sure now? Both Autumn and Winter rarely live up to expectations. I'm always taken aback how quick summer fades at this time of year as the light fading accelerates. Still love the colours of this time of year. Just wish there were more misty mornings, sunny days and big autumn storms. Dank seems to sum up much of the reality.

Not much here unfortunately, an on and off wintry mix overnight, very fine snow, hail, sleet, grapuel mainly. A light dusting, no real proper snow. Doesn't look like I have to travel too far south from here to find it though.

Oh well back to FI.

That's been very noticeable today already, the BBC forecast hardly discusses anything else. Oh yes cold in the north, maybe even snow but look at this system skirting the south....

Just checked myself following your post, crikey! Surely not for our neck of the woods? The shelves will be cleared from all the supermarkets despite bizarrely Northwich having a huge number of them!

It does actually look like there's a bit of potential for us next week. Obviously still some way out.

We could just ditch the model output thread and base our decisions on when the express, mail and star all converge on their imminent predictions of snowmageddon?

Funnily enough I've just visited the Daily Express website and the main article splashed across the homepage is 'Britain on HEAVY SNOW ALERT: Polar vortex to plunge UK into WORST January FREEZE in years'. Which model are they using? It can't be any I've seen before.

Too true, we have to grow a very big beard as well apparently. I'm prepared what with Maunder, Carrington all incoming and that's before the arrival of Planet X. At least we might get some snow then!

I'm assuming this is the new maunder minimum the express seem to keep predicting? I've got my Amish survival wagon and bug-out bag at the ready.

Modelling the natural world is notoriously complex. We often don't understand the rules to any great degree (and how to describe them) let alone how they interact. If you consider the sheer scale of data we'd need to sample with our global climate plus the complex interactions we'd need to understand I'm amazed we can accurately model to the level we currently achieve. Throw in the interaction between the sea and atmosphere plus external factors such as the earth's rotation and influence of the sun and it's a mind boggling amount of data we'd need to collect.

It hasn't been posted for a few pages, 'Winter's over', roll on Spring.

Basically the technical term is 'pants' frankly. I assume by later this evening it'll all have aligned with the UKMO after all?

I wish, straight through the Liverpool Bay. I seem to recall a great one in Jan 2010?

Just near Davenham. I'm not getting my hopes up for snow given our location and track record!

Thanks for that, there will be a lot of disappointment on the model output thread if we do see the almost inevitable downgrade. I tend to limit my excitement now until T+96 at the earliest. It's still looking a much better prospect than much of last winter. It's nice to see a variance of output's for once.

The last couple of days have been great, a real wintry feel, frost, fog and mist lifting to reveal beautiful blue skies with a really crisp feeling. The excitement is building in the model output thread, at what point does the potential cold snap outlined by some of the models move towards reality? Sunday?

Agreed I never post in there, apart from the fact that I don't understand most of it, it's heavy going as it's being routinely side tracked with off topic posts and some pretty heated bickering. It would be great if NW put together a 'pro' model output discussion thread limited to professionals and skilled amateurs (with posting permissions controlled by NW) which discusses the model output. You could then have a general model output discussion thread for all the mayhem.

Just trying to start again, very light but bigger flakes this time!

Boo just the odd flake here now, still an hour or so of light snow.