cheeky_monkey

cant see any major snow event south of birmingham on the ECM...lookS better to me for a country wide snowfall on the GFS

just spent over 3 hours tryin to get home(7miles)...not happy if known was going to be like this would have left work at lunchtime!!

heavyish sleet in south herts

Just rain here im afraid in south herts..quite heavy too..very cold

no i was in London ON last year..right now im in London England i just never got around to changing my location....im not too familiar with Edmonton weather but im guessing its often very cold and dry during the majority of winter??

Good..i was hoping it wouldnt be too cold..think it would too much of a shock to the system,,as long as it is not windy ill think it will be ok?

They are in Canada..their records over the last 60 years or so are as extensive as ours...just take a look at the environment for canada website..they have weather records for hundreds of sites right across Canada

any ideas on the winter forecast for western half of canada?..i will be landing in Edmonton on the 10th January for the duration.

my understanding of the bartlett high is that is when the azores high gets displaced in winter north east across spain and the bay of bsicay into france and much of the western med.. this causes most of north west europe to suffer from long periods of mild to very mild south westerly winds with little in the way of cold and not mcuh if any snow or frost. These areas of high pressure can be very stubborn to move and can last for weeks at a time and have a habit of reforming one after another during mild winters as the jet becomes locked into the same pattern...often common when there is a + NAO AND +AO and also when there is a strong El nino event.

all this christmas pudding gumpf from 1987 onwards dosnt hold water with regards to winters..it does from 97 onwards though. Using the stats against the 1971-2000 benchmark we find there were four mild winters on the trot between 1972-3 & 1975-6..then no mild winters at all until 1987-8..where we get another three in a row up to 1989-90..then there is only one mild winter (94-5) between 1989-90 & 96-97 one out of seven winters. Since then we have had eight of the last twelve that were mild, three average and one below average.

hardly seriously below normal???..so feb and july scraped in 0.1 & 0.4c below...what about April 1.9c above and November probably coming in more than 2c above...and that beats all the below average months you quoted for the last 10years..thats before i mention July 2006 3.2c above..Sept 2006 3.1c above..Jan 2007 2.8c above etc etc. the number of above average months hugely outways the number below..also the extent to which many have been above is far in excess in scale to those that have been below.

hmmm...has this year been warmer than last?..yes..has it been a cold year..no..has not every month since january been above average sometimes by quite a margin?..yes..have we seen any seriously below average months in the last 10 years..no..i think the facts speak for themselves...end of!

I still think it came to end after 1996-7 the geranral winter pattern of the 20th century of mild winters intersperesd with colder winters continued to this point with 90-91 & 95-96 following on from 86-7.

see there were record breaking temperatures in southern alberta up to 20c in places thats 18c above normal!!

looks to be remaining mild if not exceptionally mild over much of northern USA and southern Canada over the next week to 10 days.

i know it is outside the twenty year time frame..but what about this one?

november 1994 was indeed the mildest on record..only november to record an above 10c cet.

i remember the great west country blizzard very well...and it was never forecast to get much beyond dorset and somerset...so forecast was spot on! Where they did get it wrong was 3-4 days later when they forecast another deep low to zip across the western chanel and into france with another hefty blizzard forecast for sw england,,this time it swang into france causing huge amounts of snow even as far south as the french riveria...and nothing in the west country.

ummm you spelt weather incorrectly

Climate change - past caring

thats right i am really struggling with this run of cooler weather so much so that next month i might have to put a jumper on.

anybody know what has been the highest October maximum acheived in the last 25yrs?

only thing that really stands out is the exceptionally wet autumn of 2000..i was in chrage of building a hotel in Devon at the time and we recorded 120 days of consecutive rainfall on site from the 25th August - 22nd December.

yes thats exactly what i mean

exactly so just leave them alone..if they die out they die out, by spending time and money trying to save them you are playing god!