as a complete neutral (no feelings either way if its cold or not in the UK) IMO the only real problem here is the huge bias towards looking for cold and snow..hence many posters are blinded by that fact and don't give a balanced view of the models which in turn to leads to massive over expectation by others who may not understand what the whole output is showing and thus massive disappointment ensues and finger pointing starts when things don't turn out the way they wanted or expected. Its always been that way and unfortunately anyone who does give a fully balanced viewed will be swamped by hope casting in the winter months.