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    Scotland - Regional Discussion - 23/12/13 >>>

    in Regional

    Posted

    SS when yer finished doing those sprouts come doon here and do mine please. We had our first xmas dinner yesterday (my birthday is the excuse) the second one today, and the third one is tomorrow.

    Need to make another trifle though - we et the first two.

    Shouldn't that be 'sproots', mardatha?Posted Image

     

    Merry Christmas to all those in Scotty!Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image 

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    Manmade Climate Change Discussion

    in Climate Change

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    Not at all, the idea of the oceans retaining heat for lengthy periods was kicked out many years ago, but now when it suites it's all the rage. Double standards shouldn't take precedence over what is factual evidence, if one day you state oceanic heat content is short term you cannot then stake a claim stating the opposite.

    So, what if we were just wrong to discount it - what then?

    Manmade Climate Change Discussion

    in Climate Change

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    And yet when the theory of retained heat in the oceans was put forward by Stephen Wilde many years ago proponents of AGW ridiculed it  and yet now they embrace much the same idea, I wonder if this is due to the global surface recordsPosted Image

    And,now the 'sceptics' are doing the very same thing.

    Manmade Climate Change Discussion

    in Climate Change

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    What, you mean, ahem, that a new study shows that solar is not a major cause of (modern) climate change? Of course, that's never been published before, that conclusion hasn't be reached since the 1990s by the consensus, and this is alarmingly new evidence?

    Of course, Spark...Does that mean that CO2 is?Posted Image

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    CO2 Questionnaire Thread

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    Surely a rise in temperature would mean less ice sheet in the Arctic and as such this would decrease the Albino effect, thereby giving the warming more impetus by increased warming of the sea and subsequently the land areas.

    Lol Mike...I couldn't resist!Posted Image

    New Research

    in Climate Change

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    I'm fairly certain that in most respects churning out a research paper, crucially, with a predetermined outcome (the consensus says what the outcome is, the IPCC review of the literature validates the consensus) isn't scientific. The argument that more papers with the same conclusion is a necessary consequence of fossil fuel lobby pressure seems to me to be pandering to some sort of argumentum ad populum, which I know isn't scientific because it dispenses with even cursory basic logic.

    But, with all due respect, you are not really in a position to make that claim, are you? If there is a 'logical fallacy', the contention that consensus of data questions the reality is surely it?

    New Research

    in Climate Change

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    A quick question: if the link between CO2 and temperature is so well established (implied by consensus, and IPCC virtual certainties) why on Earth would anybody spend valuable cash assets to establish it yet again. And again. And again. And again - repeat ad nauseum - and again .... Surely the money would be better spent on finding ways of mitigating the implied catastrophe just around the corner? Or don't - read: shouldn't - we care about that?

    I don't really know; but, I suspect the fossil-fuel lobby's penchant for telling folks exactly what they want to hear (carry on as usual and bury your head in the sand) might play a considerable part?Posted Image

    Talking About the Polar Vortex...

    in Spring Weather Discussion

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    Good question, Stodge; and one that I've been struggling with of late, too.

     

    I don't have much at all in the way of answers, but I'm erring toward the recent fluctuations in Solar output; its possible effects on the PFJ, stratospheric temperature profiles, Arctic sea-ice extent and HLBs...I could do with some expert import, I think...

    Manmade Climate Change Discussion

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    But I'm not comparing them but some on here as soon as they see the names of monckton or watts etc involved either directly or indirectly automatically go into hyper denial drive. Only time will tell but somewhere amongst all that is presently despised a gem of a nugget will prove a point and change how we view our ever changing Climate but then again it might not. And that's why I like to keep an open mind and read everything with a nice big jar of salt next to me!!!!! 

    No 'hyper denial drive' jonboy...AGW Theory is, like all other scientific theories, only provisionally accepted; if something comes up which leads to its eventual overthrow then, so be it. In any case, the theory will - as with all others - need to adapt to new discoveries, and so on and so forth. But I'd be prepared to put money on no-one ever being able to demonstrate that doubling atmospheric CO2 has no warming effect...

     

    Now, if Watts, Monckton et al were to put forward a coherent theory in defence of what they claim, I would sit up and listen to it; but spurious FOI fiascoes, conspiracy theories about NASA deliberately sabotaging its own satellites and the like?

     

    It all sounds like blatant obfuscation to me, I'm afraid...

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